The Never-Ending Armenian Genocide Resolution

THE NEVER-ENDING ARMENIAN GENOCIDE RESOLUTION
by Morton Abramowitz

The National Interest Online
March 19 2010

Over the last forty years, a resolution has frequently come up in one
or both houses of Congress declaring the killings of over a million
Armenians in present-day Turkey during World War I a genocide. The
resolution has always failed to pass. But each time it comes up
Armenian Americans, Turks and our politicians have acted in the same
way. It has become almost a ritual.

For Armenian-Americans it always entails an enormous effort,
and ends in political abandonment. Getting a resolution passed
is the principal purpose of leading Armenian organizations,
which ceaselessly raise awareness and funds to lobby Congress and
presidential administrations. Their effort is intense at election
time, when monies are given and commitments exacted from candidates
to support calling the events of 1915 a genocide. They always get
much sympathy from presidential contenders, and sometimes, as with
Mr. Obama, specific statements using the term genocide. Legislators
also often pay attention to Armenian groups, particularly where there
are large populations of Armenian descent, as in California.

But every time the resolution has come up, the results remind one
of the famous antics of the unforgettable, hard-nosed Lucy in the
comic strip Peanuts, who holds the football with her finger for the
believing Linus to kick. As he rushes to kick the ball, she invariably
pulls it aside and Linus bites the dust. So it is that the Armenians
find themselves with presidents forsaking their promises or reverting
to a low profile on the resolution and their subordinates taking
the lead in opposition, or legislators who similarly back down for
national-security reasons. Aggrieved Armenians resolutely reject the
assertion that American national interests regarding Turkey are so
compelling or so threatened that political leaders will always fear
the consequences of Turkish anger in expressing support or voting for
such a morally compelling resolution. They impressively join the fray,
year after year, despite repeated failure.

For Turkey, the Armenian genocide issue in America, its major ally,
has become increasingly contentious. The Turks vehemently deny
genocide occurred; it is a matter of national honor in a country
where nationalism remains very strong and politically potent. Ankara
acknowledges that the huge numbers of Armenians and Turks were
slaughtered, but as the result of a terrible war. Many fear passage
of such resolutions will somehow ultimately lead Armenians to seek
reparations from Turkey. They argue that the issue should be left
to historians to determine, not legislators–although Turkish and
Armenian historians agreeing on the matter seems far-fetched.

Turkish governments complain bitterly when resolutions are introduced
in other countries and threaten vague but serious consequences–yet
they rarely follow through with major measures, evidenced by the
passage of such a resolution in France. The rage of the Turkish
government and public is greatest when it gets congressional
attention in the United States, setting off fears in Washington that
the consequences could be very damaging in such important places
as Afghanistan and Iraq. In America, as in France, Turkey cannot
easily appeal to the public: there aren’t many Americans of Turkish
descent around, and not much of the electorate is interested. Instead
they bring out all the heavy cannon they can to turn back the
resolution–numerous lobbyists, the large military contractors, the
American Jewish community (because, until recently, of the strong
Turkey-Israel relationship) and most important, the executive branch.

Passage of a resolution would be a huge domestic political blow for
any Turkish government. Turkey’s efforts have always worked.

This year Turkish government anger seemed greater over the resolution
passing just the House Committee on International Relations, which
has happened before. The Turks felt that the administration (as well
as the American Jewish community, which they believe is monolithic)
was insufficiently active in opposing the resolution. They recalled
their ambassador and are considering other punitive measures. But
after the administration’s indeed belated opposition, the resolution
appears not likely to even reach the floor. Things were much more
bitter than usual this year because Ankara came up with a creative
approach of proposing and working out agreements with neighboring
Armenia to normalize frozen relations, which it also hoped would help
postpone any genocide resolution in America indefinitely. But that
effort, desirable on its own, stalled politically in Turkey–the Obama
administration’s expectation that the Turkish government would submit
the agreements for parliamentary approval contributed to its delay in
weighing in on the resolution. This year, on the commemorative date
of April 24, how Mr. Obama–who used the genocide word as a candidate,
but hasn’t yet as president–speaks to the Armenian community will be
closely watched and another storm is possible. Turkish Prime Minister
Erdogan has remained very vocal on the whole issue.

For the American media, a genocide resolution is hardly an identifiable
issue. Usually it gets a few inches in the middle of the paper,
although this year’s Turkish threats caught more press attention. In
1990, a quite extraordinary two-day debate took place in the Senate
over a genocide resolution between the two party leaders, Senator
Dole and Senator Byrd–and got barely a mention in the national
press. I remember it because as our ambassador in Turkey I spent
months lobbying some sixty senators to reject the resolution.

Most Americans who pay attention to the issue probably sympathize with
the Armenians and believe historical evidence supports their claim of
genocide. They tend to believe Turkey should come to grips with its
past. Others question, whatever the history, that it is bizarre for
the American Congress to express views of what happened one hundred
years ago in wartime in another country. But all that pales for many
congressmen and presidents, whatever their commitments in election
times, to compelling foreign-policy concerns with Turkey.

Can this dynamic be changed? Not likely in the short run. The
Armenian community will not give up. Moreover they believe that
despite Turkey’s growing international importance, its position
on this issue is eroding. Some twenty countries have called events
genocide–including Sweden, a strong supporter of Turkey’s bid for EU
membership, which only last week passed a genocide resolution by one
vote. Even with the issue so deeply felt and politically explosive
in Turkey, such governments aren’t likely change their stance even
as they search for ways to fend off resolution battles.

Perhaps over time and because of increasing public discussion in Turkey
(a recent phenomenon) that will change. Conceivably our Congress may
grow tired of the endless battle, but the politics are hard to put
aside. Probably the best hope is the realization of Armenian-Turkish
reconciliation, which will make it easier to proceed practically
to better deal with horrible history. Meanwhile, stay tuned for the
next episode.

Morton Abramowitz, a senior fellow at the Century Foundation, was
American ambassador to Turkey 1989-1991.

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An Inexplicable Triple Threat

AN INEXPLICABLE TRIPLE THREAT

Daily Star
d=1&article_id=112861&categ_id=17
March 18 2010
Lebanon

Turkey’s prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has laid down a
dangerous and seemingly inexplicable threat – a triple threat, in
fact. Erdogan told the BBC’s Turkish service that while an estimated
170,000 ethnic Armenians live in his country, only 70,000 or so
are actually full-fledged citizens, meaning that the rest faced the
possibility of deportation.

"If necessary, I will tell the remaining 100,000 to leave. I can do
so because they are not Turkish citizens and I’m not obliged to keep
them in my country," Erdogan said.

There’s of course the direct, domestic threat, to thousands of people
covered by this sweeping pronouncement. Why now? These stateless
people didn’t enter Turkey in the last few years. If 100,000 stateless
Armenians have been residing there for decades, seemingly without
major incident, why has Erdogan suddenly remembered their status and
threatened them with expulsion?

The answer of course lies in another dimension of the issue: the
world. The Swedish Parliament and US Congress have recently taken
steps to pass resolutions recognizing the Ottoman genocide of World
War I, against the Armenians, and according to the Swedes, against
the Assyrians, Chaldeans and Pontiac Greeks as well.

Naturally, Erdogan is reacting to these pronouncements from foreign
states, but rather than cut ties with these countries, he’s issued
a threat that’s politically counter-productive and morally deplorable.

But the most worrying dimension of his move is regional. Erdogan
told Armenia that it should distance itself from its diaspora,
which he considers a source of evil, saying in effect: "Yerevan,
focus on your relations with Ankara, or we’ll kick 100,000 Armenians
out of our country." It’s not exactly a positive plank in Erdogan’s
announced policy of "zero conflict" in the region.

It also comes after Turkey distinguished itself by criticizing the
policies of a certain state, Israel, against a certain stateless
people, the Palestinians. One interview to the BBC could destroy all
of the credit amassed by Erdogan and his government, and make him
out to be a petty settler of scores, not a statesman.

Our region has its own worrying precedents. A fit of pique by Saudi
Arabia in the wake of Iraq’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait saw Riyadh expel
around 1 million Yemenis. It might have served some domestic purpose
at the time, but it’s long-range effects have been devastating for
Saudi Arabia’s state, its economy, and the world, since the Yemeni
factor in the growth and actions of Al-Qaeda has been quite pronounced.

For the region, Turkey hasn’t been a shining beacon of free civil
society and democracy, but it’s served as a possible model for the
future of Arab states: civilian governments and a military that doesn’t
directly hold the reigns of power. How could Ergodan’s move possibly
benefit anyone?

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MOSCOW: Patriarch Kirill Calls For Unity Between Russia And Armenia

PATRIARCH KIRILL CALLS FOR UNITY BETWEEN RUSSIA AND ARMENIA

The Voice of Russia
March 18 2010

Patriarch Kirill, currently on an official visit to Yerevan, has
consecrated the foundation stone of an Orthodox church to be built
in the Armenian capital in the next few years. His Holiness has
also visited another Orthodox church where he met with the Russian
compatriots.

The Russian Diaspora in Armenia includes several thousand descendants
from the former Soviet republics, and the Armenians demonstrate
a kind-hearted attitude to Russians. Nevertheless, there are few
Orthodox churches. The new one, to be known as the Church of the
Elevation of the Life-Creating Cross, will be the third.

Addressing the congregation, Patriarch Kirill said his visit aims at
supporting the Russian Diaspora who should live in fraternal peace
with the people of Armenia:

"The Armenian Diaspora in Russia is large enough, and Armenians are
fully integrated into the Russian society. But Russians in Armenia
are not that many. And they are people of different descent. But we
are one Orthodox family and should live in peace and harmony".

In the opinion of Patriarch Kirill, Armenia has all the conditions
for Russians to maintain and develop their cultural identity. Several
dozen Russian schools are attended by Russians and Armenians alike:

"The Russian believers should cement Orthodox faith and they should
also make their own contribution to Armenian cultural and religious
traditions, so that they could participate freely in the country’s
social life. Our common Christian roots create a solid foundation
for good neighborly relations between Armenia and countries taking
spiritual guidance from the Russian Orthodox Church".

Timed for Patriarch Kirill’s visit was the presentation of two of
his books in Armenian translation which took place at the Yerevan
State University. His Holiness the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia
Kirill was awarded the title of Honorary Doctor of the Yerevan State
University, the country’s top higher education establishment. The
title-awarding ceremony was attended by the head of the Armenian
Apostolic Church Garegin II.

Erdogan’s Intervention Is Demagogic And Disreputable: The Times

ERDOGAN’S INTERVENTION IS DEMAGOGIC AND DISREPUTABLE: THE TIMES

Tert.am
11:44 â~@¢ 19.03.10

Deportations have powerful symbolism in modern European history. The
notion that the government of a would-be member state of the EU
might propose the forced collective expulsion from its territory of a
specified nationality ought to be unthinkable, wrties The Times, adding
that yet that course was casually threatened recently by Recep Tayyip
Erdogan, the Turkish Prime Minister, against 100,000 Armenian migrants.

According to the UK publication, the purported justification of the
Turkish PM’s move was the recent passage of non-binding resolutions
on the Armenian Genocide in the US Congress and the Swedish parliament.

Turkey takes strong issue with the claim of genocide. The history
and politics of Turkish-Armenian relations are convoluted, but the
ethics of Erdogan’s remarks are not. His intervention is demagogic
and disreputable.

"Historical truth matters. It is extraordinary that the government
of modern Turkey should resist it. No one alive today was responsible
for these barbarities. They were committed by an imperial power that
has long since passed into history along with Wilhelmine Germany,
to which it was allied in the First World War.

"While running for the presidency, Barack Obama declared his intention
of being a leader who would speak the truth about the Armenian
Genocide. In practice, while his views are a matter of record, Obama
has been conciliatory in relations with Turkey," writes The Times.

Number Of Armenians Illegally Living In Turkey Only 12,000: Recent S

NUMBER OF ARMENIANS ILLEGALLY LIVING IN TURKEY ONLY 12,000: RECENT STUDY REPORTS

Tert.am
10:46 â~@¢ 18.03.10

The number of Armenians illegally working in Turkey might actually
be several times smaller than claimed by the Turkish authorities,
reports The Armenian Observer Blog in a blog post last month.

There are between 12,000 and 13,000 Armenian citizens working illegally
in Turkey, according to a study by the Eurasia Partnership Foundation,
which will be made available to the public next month.

This study is very important, because up until now the Turkish
authorities have been claiming there are from 70,000-100,000 Armenians
illegally working in Turkey, and using it as a bargaining chip in
their bi-lateral relations with Armenia, hinting they might send
those illegal migrants back home if Armenia continues to encourage
Armenian-Diaspora efforts for international recognition of the Armenian
Genocide and doesn’t make concessions in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Head researcher Alin Ozinian, an Ä°stanbul native of Armenian descent,
worked for two years on the project, which culminated in a 150-page
report to be released in Istanbul next month.

CSTO Sec. Gen. Briefs RA Ambassador To Russia On Organization’s Prio

CSTO SEC. GEN. BRIEFS RA AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA ON ORGANIZATION’S PRIORITIES

PanARMENIAN.Net
18.03.2010 10:55 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenian Ambassador to Russia Oleg Yesayan met with
Secretary General of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, Mr.

Nikolay Bordyuzha on March 15 to discuss issues of mutual interest.

"I’m hopeful that your diplomatic experience will help development of
Russian-Armenian relations," Mr. Bordyuzha said. He also briefed on
the CSTO priorities and appreciated highly Armenia’s activity within
the Organization.

Ambassador Yesayan said for his part that he closely watches the
projects implemented by the CSTO, making a special mention of formation
of the Rapid Reaction Force, RA MFA press office reported.

Une Question De Dignite Nationale

UNE QUESTION DE DIGNITE NATIONALE
Ahmet Insel

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jeudi 18 mars 2010 – 07:30

Expliquant ce qu’il convenait de faire en réponse a une résolution
de reconnaissance du génocide arménien votée par la Commission des
affaires étrangères de la Chambre des Représentants aux Etats-Unis,
le chef de la diplomatie turque, Ahmet Davutoglu, a déclaré la chose
suivante : " Si cela s’avère nécessaire nous prendrons contact avec
les partis d’opposition a l’assemblée nationale de Turquie. Ceci
constite pour nous une question de dignité nationale." Et puis
le Premier ministre Erdogan de rajouter : "Sur ce genre de sujets,
la Turquie est sensible. On ne joue pas avec la dignité."

Alors puisque telle semble être la question, voyons donc un peu sur
quoi s’appuient ces histoires de dignité nationale et de sensibilité.

La dignité exprime le respect qu’un homme éprouve envers
lui-même. Il se fonde sur des actes percus comme honorifiques ou
vecteurs de fierté. C’est en même temps une valeur personnelle
sous-tendue par le respect que les autres sont en mesure de manifester
a la personne concernée. C’est la raison pour laquelle de nos
jours on en fait, bien maladroitement selon moi, un équivalent de
la crédibilité.

La crédibilité est une qualité qui ne se tient que dans les rapports
avec l’extérieur, l’autre. On peut très bien parvenir a un statut
tout a fait crédible en menant des affaires déshonorantes. Vous
pouvez très bien, par exemple, devenir professeur, docteur ou même
président du Haut Conseil de l’Enseignement supérieur en ayant
réalisé de somptueux plagiats. On peut tout a fait continuer a
vous tresser des lauriers après que pareille forfaiture soit rendue
publique. Mais vous, vous saurez que cette crédibilité ne repose
que sur des actes déshonorants, et vous vivrez toute votre vie avec
cette blessure intime. C’est en écrasant les autres que vous tenterez
d’oublier, d’écraser les stigmates d’une telle blessure. Dans
le même temps, vous vous écraserez devant la puissance. Ã~Jtre
crédible n’implique pas toujours le sens de la dignité.

D’ailleurs, un sentiment que l’on nourrit pour soi-même ne correspond
pas toujours au respect que les autres vous manifestent. Vous pouvez
très bien réussir quelque chose ou bien prendre une position pour
laquelle vous ressentez de l’honneur sous l’angle de vos valeurs
personnelles. Et malgré cela, les gens qui vous entourent peuvent
ne pas définir cette chose que vous venez d’accomplir comme un
fait pour lequel on peut éprouver de la fierté. Une personne ayant
choisi, quoi qu’il arrive, de ne pas profiter des biens de ce monde
au détriment des autres, peut très bien considérer la pauvreté
qu’il s’est choisi pour lui comme un mode de vie digne. Or tous ceux
qui considèrent la richesse matérielle comme une marque d’honneur
et de dignité peuvent ne pas partager ce point de vue. Et si cette
fierté pour sa vie et ce qu’il accomplit que ressent l’homme ayant
choisi la pauvreté, correspond a une valeur que recèle l’être
humain en tant qu’être libre, sensible et doué de raison, il lui
importe alors assez peu que les autres le considèrent ou non comme
une personne digne. Mais pour cela il faut que l’action pour laquelle
on ressent de la dignité soit conforme aux valeurs humaines.

Ã~Ividemment, on peut ignorer tout ce que les autres pensent de nous.

Mais cela n’est qu’indirectement relié a une question de dignité
ou d’indignité. On peut n’accorder aucune importance au jugement
des autres en faisant siennes les valeurs humaines, ou bien en les
foulant au pied. Ã~Jtre digne ou ne pas l’être dépend avant tout de
nous. Faire une erreur n’est pas un acte indigne. Et même si parmi
nos proverbes, il en est un souvent rappelé qui dit "le déni est la
forteresse de l’homme vaillant", cacher ou nier la faute commise n’est
généralement pas percu dans le monde comme une attitude honorable.

Depuis 1975, voila la quatrième ou la cinquième tentative
de reconnaissance officielle du génocide arménien aux
Ã~Itats-Unis. Toutes les précédentes tentatives, nous les avons
repoussées "nationalement" par les voies de la menace, du chantage,
de la concussion et de l’influence. Nous avons préservé notre
dignité. Et dans cette dernière tentative, même si une résolution
a été votée par la Commission citée ci-dessus, notre dignité
nationale est cette fois-ci liée a la question de savoir si la
résolution passera ou non les portes de cette même Commission. Mais
dites-moi donc par l’accomplissement de quel acte digne, aujourd’hui
ou hier, nous aurons sauvé notre dignité nationale ?

Ahmet Davutoglu répond a cette question indirectement. " Ce sont
les peuples qui vécurent les événements de 1915 qui sauront le
mieux ce qu’il s’est passé, précise-t-il. Pour les Arméniens,
1915 peut être une période de déportation, mais pour les Turcs,
au même moment, 1915 ce sont les Dardanelles." De la, deux remarques.

Lorsqu’en 1915 les Turcs sont en train de livrer un combat capital
pour leur survie dans les Dardanelles, certaines personnes ont alors
livré les Arméniens a la déportation . Est-ce bien cela qu’a voulu
dire le ministre ? Est-ce pour cela alors que pour cette date de 1915,
les Turcs, pour différentes raisons, éprouvent de la fierté et les
Arméniens un très grand deuil ? Sinon on ne peut que se demander
d’où est sortie cette histoire des Dardanelles.

Ces Arméniens se sont-ils déportés tout seuls ou alors ce sont
les forces d’occupation qui les ont déportés ? Les Arméniens, ce
sont les Martiens qui les ont télétransportés sur un autre monde,
ou bien les dirigeants du gouvernement jeune turc ? Ou bien encore
en 1915 les Arméniens vivaient-ils loin des Turcs, sans que les
Turcs puissent savoir rien de ce qui arrivait a l’autre peuple ? Ces
questions et bien d’autres qui leur ressemblent, croyez-vous les avoir
résolues en leur donnant des réponses du genre des manigances des
forces impérialistes, du destin, de la guerre dans laquelle tout le
monde a beaucoup souffert ; etc.. ?.

Ou bien alors cette comparaison du ministre est intentionnelle et
l’on parvient a la conclusion selon laquelle les Turcs ont déporté
les Arméniens a cause des Dardanelles. Pour comprendre que la
déportation n’était pas qu’un simple déplacement, il suffit de lire
le décompte qu’en fit soigneusement Talat Pacha. Ahmet Davutoglu,
avec sa comparaison entre la déportation et les Dardanelles n’a, a
mon avis, pas même conscience d’ouvrir la porte a la thèse voulant
que ce soit un peuple tout entier qui ait a répondre des accusations
de génocide.

"Pourquoi continuer a s’humilier ?"

Ce ne sont pas les Turcs qui ont déporté les Arméniens
ottomans. C’est la direction du Parti d’Union et Progrès, le
gouvernement jeune turc, qui a pris cette décision et qui a puni toute
une commuanuté humaine, sur la base de sa religion, de sa langue et
de son origine, sans faire aucune différence entre les coupables et
les innocents, les femmes et les hommes, les enfants et les personnes
âgées. Le triumvirat jeune turc peut avoir agi ainsi pour le salut de
l’Etat. Ils peuvent très bien avoir pris une décision aussi grave
dans le but de préserver et de sauver le peuple turc. Portés par
un même élan, les responsables de la déportation ainsi que ses
exécutants ont pu agir par haine ethno-religieuse ou par appât du
gain. Mais quoi qu’il en soit, nier que les auteurs de tels actes ne
se sont pas rendus coupables de crimes contre l’humanité ou d’actes
nécessitant les plus lourdes peines correspond-il a une attitude
digne ? Si la défense de la dignité nationale passe par le déni
d’un tel crime contre l’humanité, peut-on parler de la dignité de
l’objet de cette défense ?

Nous pouvons discuter de la question de savoir si les événements de
1915 peuvent ou non recevoir la définition génocide. Nous pouvons
critiquer la thèse qui veut que les crimes d’une extrême gravité
commis a l’encontre des Arméniens se soient perpétués sur une
période allant de 1915 a 1923. Mais nous ne pourrons le faire
qu’après avoir dit de facon claire que les Arméniens ottomans
ont été victimes d’un crime contre l’humanité d’une extrême
gravité. Dans le cas contraire, alors que les Dardanelles est, a
juste titre, un motif de dignité nationale, nous prémunir contre
la condamnation mondiale de la déportation arménienne fera partie
intégrante de notre dignité nationale.

Laissons les autres de côté. Aurons-nous accompli un geste digne,
un geste pour lequel nous pourrions ressentir de l’honneur ?

"Nous refusons le terme de génocide parce que nos ancêtres ne peuvent
pas avoir commis de génocide", vocifère notre Premier ministre. les
Unionistes sont-ils les ancêtres communs a toute la nation turque
? Ou bien est-ce parce que nous sommes secrètement convaincus que
c’est la nation turque dans son intégralité qui a déporté un
peuple en masse, et non les Unionistes, que nous nous échinons tant
a préserver la crédibilité de cette nation de par le monde ?

La semaine dernière, Ahmet Altan posait la question suivante dans le
journal Taraf : "pourquoi nous efforcons nous a dissimuler ce terrible
crime, pourquoi nous dépensons-nous tant a défendre ces criminels,
a en cacher les crimes, pourquoi ne cessons-nous de nous contorsionner,
au risque même de nous humilier, afin que les réalités ne sortent
pas en public ?" Oui, pourquoi tenons-nous la condamnation, la
réprobation des crimes et des souffrances infligés aux Arméniens
en 1915 pour une insulte faite a nos ancêtres ? Pourquoi faisons-nous
d’un tel déni une des composantes de notre sensibilité nationale ?

Pourquoi alors l’AKP, le parti au pouvoir, ne couronne-t-il pas le
Comité Talat Pacha, composé de personnes triées sur le volet et
qui fait tout son possible pour préserver une telle dignité, de
telles valeurs ? Le 8 mars dernier, Rauf Denktas, l’ancien président
chypriote turc et l’un des responsables et porte-parole de cette
organisation a déclaré : " je salue notre véritable président Dogu
Perincek." [Dogu Perincek est l’ancien président du Parti ouvrier,
souverainiste et ultra-nationaliste, arrêté et jugé dans le cadre
de l’affaire Ergenekon, Ndr] Pourquoi l’AKP maintient-il le défenseur
d’une telle cause en prison ?

Ou bien serait-ce que derrière le drap de cette dignité se tient
une raison des plus tangibles ? De quoi nous avons peur devant
les accusations de génocide ? Des demandes d’indemnisation et de
restitution territoriale ou de propriété ? Est-ce de cela que nous
avons peur ? Dans le journal Zaman du 6 mars dernier, on rapportait
que des sources diplomatiques nous avaient mis en garde contre
la possibilité " de demandes d’indemnisations et de restitutions
territoriales suite a la reconnaissance par les Etats-Unis." Ce n’est
pas la première fois qu’on en parle.

Mais nous, en tant que nation, c’est pour ca, pour empêcher ces
demandes d’indemnisations et de restitution que nous livrons ce
combat pour la dignité nationale ? Notre dignité nationale a-t-elle
a voir avec la terre et l’argent ? Et puis qui demande des terres et
des indemnisations ? Même s’il n’était aucune demande, qu’y a-t-il
de plus honorable, verser des indemnités, même symboliques, pour
ces vies perdues, tous ces biens saisis, ou bien se battre avec le
monde entier pour nier cet immense pillage ?

Bref, parlons d’abord largement du fait de savoir si, pour nous,
ce qui fut infligé aux Arméniens en 1915 est un acte digne ou non.

Ensuite viendra le temps de se demander où et comment défendre
notre dignité nationale.

Traduction pour TE : Marillac

http://www.turquieeuropeenne.eu/article4076

British Justice Minister Tells Erdogan The Armenian Genocide Bill Wi

BRITISH JUSTICE MINISTER TELLS ERDOGAN THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BILL WILL NOT PASS

armradio.am
17.03.2010 16:16

British Justice Minister Jack Straw on Tuesday assured Turkey’s Prime
Minister that Parliament would not pass a resolution recognizing the
Ottoman-era killings of Armenians as genocide, CNNTurk reported.

"The chance of this becoming law is zero. I can assure everyone on
this issue, Straw said.

After the Swedish parliament adopted an Armenian genocide resolution
last week, many have turned their attention to the British Parliament,
where a draft will be submitted to a House of Commons committee after
a second reading on April 30.

If it is approved, an Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day will be
established in the country.

"The English government and the opposition do not support this draft,"
Straw said.

The British committee is scheduled to hold its last evaluation in
late March; the first reading of the draft was made Jan. 6. A similar
draft will follow the same process in the British House of Lords.

Europe Is Not Interested I Armenian-Turkish Reconciliation

"EUROPE IS NOT INTERESTED I ARMENIAN-TURKISH RECONCILIATION"

Aysor.am
March 17 2010
Armenia

The west has destabilized and confused Turkey and the latter is ready
for any kind of aggressive movement, said politician Igor Muradyan
talking about the regulation of the Armenian – Turkish relations.

According to the speaker, the western countries urge Ankara to
interfere the Karabakh process, in order to press on the expansion
of Turkey and its ambitions.

"To tell that Turkey tries to depress Pan-Turkism or Pan-Ottomanism
is an archaic viewpoint. They are concerned with the possible entrance
of Turkey into the European Union", – the expert explained.

I. Muradyan thinks that Washington supports the Armenian – Turkish
reconciliation process in order to take Armenia out of the list of the
"Russian Customers".

"Now the normalization process of the Armenian – Turkish relations
shouldn’t be allowed", – he said and added that the western countries
in that concern try to accuse Armenia just for not accusing Turkey.

"It’s difficult for them to hold a dialogue with Turkey, which can’t
be said about Armenia. Now the Armenian society shouldn’t allow to
create that kind of opinion, just on the contrary, they should show
that Europe is not interested in Armenian – Turkish relations. This
is the problem of Armenia", – mentioned Igor Muradyan.

ANKARA: British Minister Tells Turkish Leaders Parliament Unlikely T

BRITISH MINISTER TELLS TURKISH LEADERS PARLIAMENT UNLIKELY TO ADOPT ARMENIAN BILL

Anadolu Agency
March 16 2010
Turkey

London, 16 March: British Justice Minister Jack Straw reassured Turkey
that the bill on Armenian allegations would not be adopted at the
House of Commons.

Addressing the working lunch of the Turkey-England Business forum [on]
Tuesday [16 March] attended by Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan,
Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and other senior Turkish
officials, Straw said the chances that the bill would be adopted
was zero.

He said only one of the 651 members of the House of Commons backed the
bill, noting that neither the government nor the opposition supported
the bill.

Straw, who reiterated England’s support to Turkey’s EU bid, said the
EU needed Turkey as mush as Turkey needed EU.

A similar bill recognizing the tragic events of 1915 – which took
place shortly before the fall of the Ottoman Empire – as genocide
was recently adopted by the US House Committee on Foreign Affairs
and the Swedish parliament, straining relations between Turkey and
these countries.

Turkey, which strongly rejects the genocide allegations and regards the
events as civil strife in wartime which claimed lives of many Turks
and Armenians, severely criticized the resolutions, warning that it
would jeopardize the historic rapprochement between Turkey and Armenia.