The Guardian: Armenian Delay Casts Doubt On Historic Accord With Tur

THE GUARDIAN: ARMENIAN DELAY CASTS DOUBT ON HISTORIC ACCORD WITH TURKEY

ArmInfo
2009-10-09 14:42:00

ArmInfo. A historic accord to normalise relations between Turkey and
Armenia, long at odds over Armenian claims of first world war genocide,
was thrown into doubt tonightwhen Turkey’s foreign minister refused to
say whether the signing ceremony would go ahead as planned in Zurich
on Saturday.

Ahmet Davutoglu said he remained confident that the accord, which
would also reopen the common border closed by Turkey in 1993, would
be completed. But he added: "I am not giving any dates. Let’s wait
for a statement from the Swiss. As Turkey, we have no doubts the
protocols will be signed."

Concern that the long-discussed pact could be delayed has grown
in recent days after Armenia appeared to backpedal. The country’s
deputy foreign minister, Arman Kirakossian, said he hoped it would
be signed "very soon" but that no decision had been made as to when
and where. That led to speculation that Armenia would seek changes
to the text.

Diplomats said strong opposition expressed at home and by the Armenian
diaspora may lie behind the last-minute hesitation in Yerevan. Serzh
Sargsyan, Armenia’s president, has spent the past week trying to
reassure ethnic Armenian communities in the US, France, Lebanon
and Russia.

But many expressed anger that the pact, which would create a joint
commission of historians to investigate the mass killings of 1915,
could allow Turkey to avoid taking responsibility for what they say
was a policy of genocide by the Ottoman empire in which 1.5 million
Armenians died.

Ankara has consistently denied the genocide charge. At a rally in
Beirut on Tuesday, Sargsyan was confronted by a crowd of 2,000 ethnic
Armenians waving banners saying "We will not forget".

Opposition parties in Turkey and Armenia say they will vote against the
pact, which must be approved by their respective parliaments. Recep
Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s prime minister, has warned that passage
cannot be guaranteed, since the vote will be by secret ballot.

Another stumbling block is the dispute over the ethnic Armenian
enclave of Nagorno- Karabakh, inside Azerbaijan’s borders. Fighting
with Azeri forces erupted there in the early 1990s, and 30,000 people
died. Turkey took Azerbaijan’s side, closing its border with Armenia.

The latest round of talks, sponsored by the US and the EU, to settle
the Nagorno- Karabakh dispute were due to begin in the Moldovan capital
Chisinau yesterday, with Sargsyan and the Azeri president, Ilham Aliev,
in attendance. Diplomats played down the chances of a breakthrough.

Erdogan said this week that progress in the Chisinau talks was not a
precondition for signing the Turkey-Armenia accord. "The agreement
will be signed on 10 October. It doesn’t have anything to do with
what happens in Moldova," he said. But he admitted a positive outcome
would be helpful overall.

International pressure on Turkey and Armenia not to let the chance of
a rapprochement slip is intense. Both are vital links in the chain
of actual or planned western oil and gas pipelines stretching from
central Asia to Europe.

The US and the EU strongly support the pact, which they believe will
help stabilise the volatile Caucasus region. Bringing Armenia in from
the cold, as Washington sees it, would also help diminish Russia’s
regional influence after its war last year with Georgia.

Protocols To Be Signed On October 10, Swiss Foreign Ministry Says

PROTOCOLS TO BE SIGNED ON OCTOBER 10, SWISS FOREIGN MINISTRY SAYS

Yerkir
09.10.2009 15:00

Yerevan (Yerkir) – Protocols on normalization of relations between
Turkey and Armenia will be signed on October 10 in Zurich, the Ministry
of Foreign Affairs of Switzerland announced.

Protocols will be signed by the Foreign Minister of Turkey and Armenia
Ahmed Davutoglu and Edvard Nalbandyan.

Madrid Principles Emerged From Kocharian And Oskanyan’s Efforts: Ex-

MADRID PRINCIPLES EMERGED FROM KOCHARIAN AND OSKANYAN’S EFFORTS: EX-FOREIGN MINISTER

Tert.am
16:45 09.10.09

"I don’t want to put the entire blame on the present leadership:
Madrid Principles emerged from Kocharian and Oskanyan’s efforts. They
declared all this," ex-foreign minister of the Republic of Armenia
Vahan Papazyan stated during his meeting today.

He spoke on the presigned Armenian-Turkish Protocols, emphasizing that
"Nagorno-Karabakh issue proceeds parallel" to the establishment of
Armenian-Turkish relations issue in these documents, and that who is
to blame is the leadership which came to power after 1998.

According to Papazyan, Nagorno-Karabakh issue has always been present
in the establishment issue of Armenian-Turkish relations, and in the
present documents Nagorno-Karabakh is directly present.

Papazyan stated Armenian-Turkish Protocols will come into force
only if there is certain progress in the Nagorno-Karabakh issue,
and by certain progress, he means withdrawing Armenian troops from
5 regions of Karabakh.

Baku Reduces Baku-Tbilisi-Kars Financing

BAKU REDUCES BAKU-TBILISI-KARS FINANCING

News.am
18:29 / 10/09/2009

The State Oil Fund of Azerbaijan will reduce the financing of
Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway construction project from AZN 80m to AZN
30m as part of a state credit. Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev
signed a decree on budget restructuring October 7. The funds will
be allocated to internal projects, Azerbaijani President’s website
reported. The expenses on improving the social conditions of refugees
and internally displaced people will be increased from AZN 80m to 90m.

The decision aroused a kickback by local experts. Thus, commenting
on the President’s decision, the Chairman of Center for Social and
Economic Development Vugar Bayramov told Echo (Russian-language
daily) that the fact indicates that Azerbaijan is not so interested
in developing the initiative.

According to him, the project’s financing probably was reduced in the
context of Armenia-Turkey reconciliation. Simultaneously, according
to some statements, the budget of the State Oil Fund can be cut
next year. "Under the 2010 state budget, the oil price is to total
U.S. $45/per barrel, which is indicative of an expected reduction
in oil revenues in 2010." Thus, the reduction in oil revenues is
inevitable.

Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway transport corridor involves the construction
of 98-km Kars- Akhalkalaki railway, with 68 km in Turkish and 30 km
Georgian territory. The reconstruction of Akhalkalaki-Tbilisi section
is also required. The preliminary estimate of the project is U.S. $
422m with U.S. $ 202m for the Georgian part and U.S. $ 220 for Turkish
one. The project is aimed at communication bypass of Armenia.

SCR Planning To Acquire New Railway Equipment By 2015

SCR PLANNING TO ACQUIRE NEW RAILWAY EQUIPMENT BY 2015

PanARMENIAN.Net
09.10.2009 14:12 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ South Caucasian Railways CJSC is planning to acquire
new railway equipment by 2015, the company’s press office reported.

According to chief engineer Sergey Harutyunyan, manual labor will be
minimized thanks to new electric tools. "We plan to consolidate the
tracks and improve the service system," he said.

420 million rubles will be spent on repair of Dilijan-Ijevan and
Gyumri-Akhuryan tracks.

Fernando Torres May Miss Match Vs. Armenia?

FERNANDO TORRES MAY MISS MATCH VS. ARMENIA?

PanARMENIAN.Net
08.10.2009 18:06 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Liverpool striker Fernando Torres picked up a groin
injury while training with Spain. He abandoned the training session
as a precautionary measure but was later able to exercise on his own
in the gym.

To all appearance, Torres will not play in the 2010 World up qualifier
in Yerevan on Saturday.

Milos Lexa: EU Not Yet Ready For New Expansion

MILOS LEXA: EU NOT YET READY FOR NEW EXPANSION

PanARMENIAN.Net
07.10.2009 18:53 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ EU is not yet ready for new expansion, said Eastern
Partnership Czech Coordinator Miloš Lexa. "Ahead of Paris Summit it
was decided that initiative did not aim at integrating member states
to EU or making them associate members. EU is not currently ready for
expansion. Serbia and Turkey’s membership are now under discussion,
but Union is not ready to satisfy a new stream of countries seeking
EU integration," European diplomat said, adding that EU believed that
European Partnership might become preparatory stage for countries’
associate membership.

Eastern Partnership member states are Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia,
Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus.

Armenian Wines Are Non-Competitive In European Market

ARMENIAN WINES ARE NON-COMPETITIVE IN EUROPEAN MARKET

ArmInfo
2009-10-07 12:56:00

ArmInfo. Armenian winemakers could compete in the European market
if they improved the production quality, winegrowing and winemaking
professor of Treviso Italian province Mario Barbieri told journalists
at Wednesday press- conference. M. Barbieri and his colleagues arrived
in Armenia to take part in a Roundtable on a topic of winemaking,
organized by Civilitas Armenian Foundation. According to him, it is
incorrect to compare the Armenian wines with the Italian ones by their
quality. ‘Each wine has its colour and taste and speaks the language
of the producing country’, he said. Meanwhile, the professor said just
some Armenian wines may be represented in the European markets and, in
order to compete, the local producers must improve the product quality.

It is especially important to use only the local species of grapes,
as well as professional tools and lines of bottling, M. Barbieri
said. According to him, it is important to create cooperatives and
consortiums in Armenia instead of small producers for achievement of
more results.

By estimations of the Armenian specialists, about 800,000 bottles of
wine are exported form Armenia per year, and the potential makes up
3-4 mln bottles.

Insights From A Converted Armenian Family In Diyarbakir1

INSIGHTS FROM A CONVERTED ARMENIAN FAMILY IN DIYARBAKIR1
Ohan Sasunyan

s&nid=2046
06 October 2009

Diyarbakir (also known as Amed or Amida) is located in the
south-eastern part of Turkey. Its population is 1.5 million with
Kurdish majority.

Diyarbakir (also known as Amed or Amida) is located in the
south-eastern part of Turkey. Its population is 1.5 million with
Kurdish majority.

Before 1915, the Armenians had a large quarter in the city along with
an active market which was burnt to ground on the eve of the Armenian
genocide in 1915. The city was famous with St. Kirakos Church known for
its high tower bell which was seen from any part of the city. Today,
the tower bell no more exists and the church is in ruins.

The Armenians of Diyarbakir called themselves Tigranakertsi in relation
to the city of Tigranakert which was built by King Tigran the Great
and was once the capital of Armenia.

In 1915, Most of the Armenians in Diyarbakir were deported and
later massacred on the road to Deir Zor. Few survived and were able
to escape to Syria and Lebanon and start a new life. Many Armenian
orphan children were either sold as slaves to Arabs and Kurds or saved
by Kurdish families. Their names and identity were changed and their
religion became Sunni Muslim. In other cases, families as whole had
to change their religion and live secretly for many generations in
order to survive the genocide and the continued persecution in the
first decades of the Turkish Republic.

Maryam’s Family

This study focuses on a Muslim family in Diyarbakir with Armenian
roots.

The family in concern comes originally from the village of Sati
outside Diyarbakir. Sati was an Armenian village with a school and
a church. The St. Mary Church was recently converted to mosque and
called Sati Cami (1940s). The family’s grandmother was called Maryam
who was born in 1901 in Sati.

Maryam lost her family during the genocide and was given shelter by
a Kurdish family friend in the same village. Her name was changed
to Sekine and her religion to Islam. At the early age of 13, she
was forced into marriage with the family’s only son Sheikhmus. Over
the years, they had 7 children and since marriage at early age was
a tradition and sometimes a must, the 7 children formed a family of
almost 250 members after 90 years (5 generations).

It is interesting to note that Sheikhmus’s family had also Armenian
roots. His grandfather was originally from Sasun who fled to
Diyarbakir during the 1860s and converted to Islam to avoid any
further persecution from the Ottomans.

Unlike many converted families in Turkey, Sheikhmus’s new family
(2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th generations) -~V knew that their roots were
Armenian. They had heard stories from their grandmother Maryam about
her family and her village. Maryam remembered her family and school
very well and she also remembered her younger brother Harutyun who
was lost in April 1915.

During 1940-50s periods and due to the bad economic situation in the
village, the family gradually moved to Diyarbakir City but kept their
attachment to the village. Many years passed and although the family
lived in the heartland of the Kurds, they were always considered
as foreigners.

Interestingly, their Kurdish neighbors know about their past (and
about Armenians) more then what they know but the feeling of guilt
doesn’t let them speak freely. The elderly Kurds know that their
parents also took part in the Armenian genocide and are responsible
in a certain way to what happened to those converts.

Family Structure

The elderly of the family were very religious people. Praying 5 times
and fasting during Ramadan were holy duties that were observed and
respected (2). One of Maryam’s daughters even went to Mecca with her
husband for Hajj (3). She earned the title Haji (a person who has
gone to Hajj) by the family and friends.

An interesting phenomenon in the family was the role of the woman. The
head of family is usually the oldest man and since Mehmet (Sheikhmus’s
son) was dead; his wife – Badriye (68) – had become the head of
the family. Although a stranger to the family, Badriye was a highly
respected lady (4).

In Muslim families (esp. Middle east and Turkey), women are responsible
for bringing up children and taking care of the family and house but
never have authority or power for decision making. The man is the head
of the family and when he dies, his son or his brother will take over
not the wife or daughter or even his mother if she is still alive.

Badriye herself was from a family with unknown origins. When asked
about her past, she said that her father’s name was "Hayg" a rather
weird name for her environment but a purely Armenian name by all means.

One of Sheikmus’s daughters – Melike – had married a young orphan
named. Ahmet now was 67 years old and had lost most his memory. The
only two things that he remembered were that his family was from
a village near Van and his father’s nickname was "Janfida" who was
killed during the war. The man had no clue what was the name of the
village or what did that nickname mean. "Janfida" is another weird
name for that environment; it was an Armenian nickname given to those
freedom fighters (Fedayis) who were defending their villages against
the Ottoman Army and Kurdish militias (prior to 1915).

The family encourages the youngsters to marry young and have as much
children as possible. Each couple has 4-7 children with the 65 year
old Hafize breaking the family record with 9 children. In Anatolia,
it’s a great privilege for a grandmother to hold her grand child’s
grandchild – a privilege that Maryam had before dying in 1985 and a
privilege that Badriye hopes to have also.

Most of the family members had married either their cousins or
similar converts. When asked about the reason their answer was
"to keep the blood pure". Those members who had left Diyarbakir to
Istanbul or Germany had more mixed marriages with other Kurds or Turks
or Germans. Since they were away from their environment, their sense
of belonging had faded but still they kept attached to the family,
the village and the traditions.

Young Generation

Most of young members of the family identify themselves as Kurds but
when asked what Ashiret (5) they belong to; they had no answer.

One of the younger members, Ali, was excited for the Kurdish cause and
a big fan of Abdallah Ojalan. This was his school’s environment in
Yenishehir – an area of Diyarbakir well known to have full loyalty
to the Kurdish cause. However, his friends always knew that Ali
is different.

The young generation is also highly educated: Mahmoud (29) was a
graduate of the Engineering Faculty of Dicle University while his
cousin, Feryal (25), was a lawyer and a member of a local leftist
group. Another cousin Feyzo (36) was a well known physician in Dicle
Hospital.

They are mostly free minded. Alcohol was banned at home but it was a
habit to hang out with friends in coffee shops or restaurants serving
drink. Some of them drink while in public places while others prefer
indoors with close friends.

The family youngsters feel they are different then their neighboring
Kurds but the economic and political hardships unifies them against
injustice. Not all of them support the Kurdish militias in the Kandil
Mountains (6) but they don’t see any other solution as long as the
Government continues with its anti-Kurdish policies.

One of their young men, Mahmoud (age 27), invited some friends to have
a drink in an open coffee shop at one of the gates of the city. While
discussing about everyday life and politics, the issue of Ashiret was
discussed. Although all of them were supposedly Kurds, none of them
was able to identify his Ashiret. Only Adnan said clearly that his
family once was Armenian and they converted during the war. Mahmoud
was surprised to know that his life long friend Adnan was originally
Armenian. After an hour of discussion, the 10 year old friends realized
that they all have gaps in their past.

Apparently, all of them came from unknown roots. In a strange way,
they felt more comfortable to hang out together.

Environment

The views towards the central government were almost the same within
the youth of Diyarbakir. The education level was much lower then what
it is in Istanbul or Ankara. Job opportunities were scarce. Hence,
for a young man the only salvation was to move to Istanbul which
has become an overly populated city of 15 million people among which
almost 5 million are Kurds.

As a result, the youth had extreme anti-governmental feelings. Every
now and then, Diyarbakir is the scene of violent clashes between
pro-Kurdish parties and the Police or Army. The city itself is overly
crowded with Army barracks and Police stations. All these had their
deep effect on the youth of the city.

When the locals are asked about the Armenians, the answers become
unclear. In schools, they are told the official version of the
"so called Armenian Genocide" which denies that a mass murder had
occurred and accuses the Armenians of conspiring with the Russians
against the Ottoman Empire and killing millions of innocent Muslims
but with no clear explanation of where the Armenians are now.

In the mosques, the Imams are all assigned by the government. In
their Friday sermons, they sometimes mention Armenians, Greeks and
Jews as infidels and enemies of God. The Imams picture the infidels
as those people who are far from Mohammed (7) who are not clean (8)
and commit sins by selling and drinking Raki (9).

Many people in Diyarbakir consider Armenia (Ermenistan) as the land
of infidelity where people drink on the streets and girls wear very
light and open clothes – An idea that is very attractive to their
young men but strongly appalling to the old generation.

In this environment, the secret life of these Armenian converts is
explainable. They have chosen to live in low-profile and have blocked
the past as it was full of bad memories. In many cases, they have
become more religious then real Muslims in an attempt to prove their
loyalty to their environment.

Conclusion

Maryam’s family still lives in Diyarbakir. They don’t identify
themselves as Armenians but rather as Muslim Kurds with Armenian
origins. They are very close to the Kurds but more then 90 years
of coexistence couldn’t assimilate them. They are citizens of the
Turkish republic but cannot clearly identify themselves by one of the
40 ethnic groups in Turkey. Their easy way out is to say "I’m a Kurd
or I’m a Muslim"

Such families and communities that live in the dark in Turkey are
like a big dark hall whose content is still mostly unknown – a "hall"
that definitely needs deeper exploration and investigation. While many
researchers were able to look through small windows; others had the
rare chance to partially explore from the inside making this study
a possible work.

Maryam’s family along with many other converts can’t be called
Armenians because they lack the awareness of their national identity
BUT they cannot be ignored as well since it was not their choice in
the first place to become what they are right now…

Remarks

The exact site of the old city of Tigranakert is close to the town
of Silvan – 15 min away from current Diyarbakir where the old city
walls can still be seen.

Ramadan is the holy month for all Muslims in the world. It’s 30 days
of fasting and praying period followed by 3 days of holiday (Eid el
Fit). Fasting and praying are religious obligations for every Muslim.

Mecca is located in Saudi Arabia and is considered the holy city for
all Muslims. It’s an honor for any Muslim to go for Hajj at least
once in his life.

The bride (Gelin in Turkish) is considered a stranger to the family
as she comes from different family.

Ashiret is originally an Arabic word and means tribe. Before 1915, the
Kurds were identified through their Ashiret (tribe) while Armenians
were identified through their city of origin. Till today, the Kurds
identify themselves through their Ashirets scattered all over Anatolia,
Syria, Iraq and Iran while Armenians in the Diaspora still identify
themselves through their cities (Mushetsi, Vanetsi, Dikranagerdtsi,
Sasuntsi, Atanatsi…)

Kandil Mountains are located between Iraq and Turkey and they are
the main strongholds of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) militia –
which is fighting the Turkish Army since the 80s.

Mohammed is the Prophet who is the founder of the religion of Islam.

In Islam, children must be circumcised at an early age. This mainly
symbolizes health and cleanliness. So for a Muslim, a non-circumcised
person is dirty and unhealthy person.

Drinking alcohol is totally forbidden in Islam and it’s considered
a great sin.

1 As it has been mentioned for many times the issue of the converted
Armenians is one of the least studied subjects in contemporary
Armenian studies, thus any step made in that direction is worth
mentioning. Guided by this logic "Noravank" Foundation presents the
article by Ohan Sasunian from the Diaspora which tells about the family
of the converted Armenians from Diarbekir. We find it necessary to
mention that the article is based on the studies made right at the
spot and personal impressions which make it even more remarkable.

http://www.noravank.am/en/?page=analitic

Reuters: Old Dispute Could Yet Upset Armenia, Turkey Peace

OLD DISPUTE COULD YET UPSET ARMENIA, TURKEY PEACE
By Matt Robinson

Reuters
Tue Oct 6, 2009 2:31pm EDT

MOSCOW, Oct 6 (Reuters) – Armenia and Turkey are due to sign historic
accords ending a century of hostility on Saturday but a simmering
territorial dispute could yet complicate their plans, diplomats said.

Christian Armenia and Muslim Turkey, at loggerheads since the World
War One mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks, plan to sign a
protocol in Zurich committing them to re-establish diplomatic ties
and reopen their common border.

An agreement would bolster Turkey’s credentials as a moderniser in the
West, boost Armenia’s poverty-stricken economy and improve security
in the South Caucasus region, a key transit corridor for oil and gas
supplies to the West.

But hanging over the talks is the spectre of one of the bloodiest and
most intractable conflicts sparked by the demise of the Soviet Union.

Armenia went to war with neighbouring Azerbaijan in the early 1990s
over the mountainous territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, an ethnic Armenian
enclave located within Azerbaijan’s internationally recognised
borders. Some 30,000 people died.

The war ended with a 1994 ceasefire after Armenian-backed forces
seized control of Nagorno-Karabakh and districts around it, including
a corridor of Azeri land connecting it to Armenia.

The two sides have kept an uneasy ceasefire ever since, with
spontaneous clashes along the border.

International mediators have been putting pressure on Armenia to
negotiate with Azerbaijan over Karabakh as part of a wider attempt
to secure a lasting peace in the region.

"There are intensified efforts … to make sure that at some point,
relatively soon, there will be something from the Karabakh process
that could help the Turkish-Armenian process move forward," a senior
European diplomat told Reuters.

Officially, the Azeri-Armenia talks on Karabakh are separate from
the Turkey-Armenia rapprochement. In reality they are closely linked
because Turkey has close cultural ties with Muslim Azerba an over
the Karabakh war.

In the latest diplomatic round, two days before the Swiss ceremony,
the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan will hold new talks on Karabakh
in Moldova’s capital Chisinau on Thursday.

The U.S. co-chair of the Minsk Group of mediators on Nagorno-Karabakh,
Robert Bradtke, told reporters in Baku he hoped that the "positive
dynamics" between the Azeri and Armenian leaders would continue at
that meeting.

But, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity
surrounding the talks, the European diplomat added that he did not
expect any major announcement in Moldova, saying: "I think it’s going
to take longer than that."

A Turkish government official in Ankara said:

"We are not a part nor a side in the Nagorno talks, but we would
welcome any progress towards a comprehensive solution between Armenia
and Azerbajian."

Turkey has said it hopes to open its border with Armenia by the end of
the year, but progress in Ankara-Yerevan talks have been complicated
in the past by the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute.

RATIFICATION RISKS

After its expected signing in Switzerland, the Turkish- Armenian peace
protocol must be ratified by both parliaments before taking effect.

Progress in Karabakh talks could ease resistance to the Armenia peace
process in Turkey, where lawmakers fret about making concessions to
Armenia without any payback.

But it could complicate matters in Armenia — where there is still
deep suspicion about any rapprochement with Turkey and mistrust of
Azerbaijan, which has not ruled out using military force to retake
Nagorno-Karabakh if necessary.

Before Thursday’s talks with Armenian President Serzh Sarksyan, Azeri
President Ilham Aliyev upped the stakes by saying "the negotiation
process (on Karabakh) is already in its final phase."

Observers believe Azerbaijan is pushing for at least a partial Armenian
withdrawal from seven Azeri districts that surround Nagorno-Karabakh
and were captured during the war.

"Armenia…wants to separate Karabakh from Azerbaijan, while Azerbaija
uty Foreign Minister Araz Azimov said.

Armenian officials played down expectations. "To say that tomorrow
there will be a breakthrough, I don’t know where this kind of
expectation could come from," an Armenian foreign ministry spokesman
said.

Armenian analyst Richard Giragosian said the mediators would push for
a short statement by Aliyev and Sarksyan on Thursday committing to
the principles of a peace deal on Karabakh as a sign of progress,
"mainly for the Turks to use to move forward with the parliament
(ratification)."

But he was pessimistic about their chances — and failure at the
Moldova talks is likely to hurt the Turkey-Armenia peace.

The senior European diplomat, asked about the chances of Turkey
opening the border as planned by year-end, without progress on
Nagorno-Karabakh, replied: "Fairly slim." (Additional reporting by
Hasmik Lazarian in Yerevan and Afet Mehtiyeva in Baku; editing by
Michael Stott and Mark Trevelyan)