Armenia Offers Safe Haven For Fleeing Georgians

ARMENIA OFFERS SAFE HAVEN FOR FLEEING GEORGIANS
By Naira Melkumian in Yerevan and Bavra

Institute for War and Peace Reporting
14-Aug-08
UK

Caucasus Reporting Service

Thousands cross border, as opposition blames president for delay in
returning from Olympics.

Armenia, the closest country to the Georgian-Russian fighting,
has opened its borders to thousands fleeing the conflict – but its
political leadership has kept virtually silent throughout the crisis.

Since the conflict in South Ossetia broke out last week, the customs
checkpoint at Bavra at the Armenian-Georgian border has been the
only safe crossing point for people wishing to leave Georgia. Most
were Armenian tourists fleeing, but others were Georgians deciding
to leave for a place of safety.

"There is something terrible happening there, we saw burnt tanks
on our way here…A bomb fell just a few metres away from us near
the Suram Pass and the shrapnel damaged the door of my car," Alik,
who was traveling with his wife and baby, told IWPR.

"We left on August 8, the day the war started because we didn’t think
our visit to Georgia would be so dangerous," said Anna, who was with
her husband and child. "We went to [the Black Sea resort of] Kobuleti,
everything was calm there but the general atmosphere was very tense;
what we feared most was the road, of course."

The Armenian foreign ministry said that more than 10,000 people had
crossed the Bavra crossing since the war began.

Most came in their own cars, others in Georgian tourist buses and
traveled on in buses sent to the border to bring them back to Yerevan
for free.

More than two thousand foreign citizens, staff and relatives of those
working for embassies or international organisations also crossed into
Armenia, heading for the nearest safe international airport in Yerevan.

Thousands of Armenian tourists holidaying on the Black Sea were taken
by surprise by the conflict.

"On the night of August 8-9 we were woken by strange noises outside
the building we were renting an apartment in," said Rita Karapetian,
an IWPR contributor who was in Kobuleti.

"The electricity went off in the whole city, television broadcasting
had stopped before that. The neighbours in the yard said that a war
has started, and the Russian air forces had attacked strategic targets
in different cities of Georgia."

Along with others, she cut short her holidays and headed for the
border.

That was not the case, however, with Armenian president Serzh Sarkisian
who continued his vacation in China, where he has been attending the
Olympic Games. Sarkisian finally returned home on August 14, almost
a week after the crisis began.

Armenia has tried to keep a low profile in the crisis. All statements
on the crisis were made by Armenia’s deputy foreign minister. "Armenia
is very concerned about the situation in South Ossetia and expresses
hopes that the parties will make efforts to settle the issues under
dispute peacefully as soon as possible," read an official statement
from the foreign ministry on August 8.

Armenian and Georgian officials denied a report that Georgia had
been attacked by planes from the Russian military base in Gyumri in
northern Armenia.

When President Mikheil Saakashvili called on other members of the
Commonwealth of Independent States to quit the organisation in
solidarity with Georgia, the Armenian foreign ministry declared
publicly it would not do so, saying that staying in the CIS was
Armenia’s "long-term political choice".

Sarkisian telephoned Russian president Dmitry Medvedev on August 13
and offered his sympathies. He then called Saakashvili on August 14
and offered condolences and humanitarian aid.

Sarkisian’s long silence drew sharp criticism from the Armenian
opposition. The Armenian National Congress, led by former president
Levon Ter-Petrosian, criticised what it called the president’s
"inadequate and dubious behaviour" and called on him to fly home.

Opposition member of parliament Stepan Safarian said, "By offering
condolences only to the president of the Russian Federation, Serzh
Sarkisian violated a balance because condolences should have been
sent to three sides, Russia, Georgia and South Ossetia."

Armenians are watching nervously to see how the Georgian-Russian
clash will continue. The landlocked country’s economy is very reliant
on both countries and experts believe the conflict will hurt trade,
when the economy is already in a downturn.

On August 7, the Georgian Oil and Gas Corporation cut supplies of
Russian gas to Armenia by 30 per cent without prior warning, but
prime minister Tigran Sarkisian later said that full supplies of 4.7
million cubic metres of natural gas had been restored.

Armenia is heavily dependent on Georgia’s Black Sea ports for its
trade and is also suffering because of the Russian blockade of the
port of Poti.

Businessman Hmayak Mnatsakanian said his freight consignment of fruit
he had been planning to send out of Poti for five days ago had been
stranded and he had only just managed to get it returned to Armenia,
although he feared it was now all spoiled.

"Each truck costs about 50 thousand dollars, and if the goods are
damaged I’ll face a huge debt, leaving aside the fact it cost two
thousand dollars to send it to Georgia.

"But the most important thing is I came home safe and sound. I can’t
believe I’m on home soil."

Naira Melkumian is a freelance journalist and IWPR contributor.

UEFA Cancels First Leg Of Georgia Team’s Match

UEFA CANCELS FIRST LEG OF GEORGIA TEAM’S MATCH

PR-Inside.com (Pressemitteilung)
2008-08-12 21:26:04 –
Austria

NYON, Switzerland (AP) – UEFA canceled the first leg of a football
match Thursday between Georgian club WIT and Austria Vienna because
of fears for the players’ safety.

The UEFA Cup qualifying match, which was supposed to be contested
over two legs, will now be decided in a single game in Vienna on
August 28. The winner qualifies for the competition’s first round.

"(WIT is) not in a position to organize a safe and secure venue in
Georgia, nor to play at an alternative venue," European football’s
governing body said Tuesday in a statement.

The decision ends two days of international football diplomacy to
find a way for WIT to fulfill its obligations amid hostilities between
Georgia and Russia. The club, based in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi,
had hoped to maintain one match close by so that it wouldn’t completely
forfeit its home advantage.

But it failed to find agreement with football authorities to stage
the match in neighboring Armenia or Azerbaijan, its preferred options.

The club opted early Tuesday to play in Turkey, in the Black Sea port
city of Rize _ 60 miles (97 kilometers) from the Georgia border.

But that plan fell through within hours, UEFA said, adding it accepted
the request but was "subsequently informed by the Georgian Football
Federation _ also speaking on behalf of WIT _ that the squad could
not travel due to security concerns.

WIT’s Mikheil Meskhi Stadium in the capital city was judged on Monday
as too dangerous for the game.

UEFA did not say how it would deal with a draw, which normally is
decided by the away-goal tiebreaker.

"UEFA will contact the clubs and national associations concerned in
due time to communicate the rules applicable to this single match,"
it said.

WIT is the last club from Georgia remaining in UEFA-organized
competitions this season. Champion Dinamo Tbilisi was knocked out of
the Champions League last week by Greek side Panathinaikos.

Dinamo’s German coach Rainer Zobel and six foreign players left
Georgia earlier this week to seek safety in Germany.

Conflit en Ossetie du Sud : vers un affrontement est-ouest?

Le Point, France

Lundi 11 août 200

Publié le 10/08/2008 à 12:54 – Modifié le 10/08/2008 à 12:57 Le Point.fr

Conflit en Ossétie du Sud : vers un affrontement est-ouest ?
AFP

George Bush ne devrait pas prendre le risque de défier la Russie alors
qu’il termine son mandat et que l’armée américaine est mobilisée sur
le thétre irakien @ AFP PHOTO/ Guang Niu/Pool

Imprimez Réagissez Classez Le déclenchement des hostilités en Ossétie
du Sud éveille des craintes d’un affrontement Est-Ouest dans la
poudrière du Caucase même si ni la Russie ni les Occidentaux ne
semblent avoir d’appétit pour une guerre en Géorgie, soulignent samedi
les analystes. Le conflit alarme les Etats-Unis et l’Europe –
notamment parce que la Géorgie est un débouché clef pour le pétrole de
la Caspienne – et plusieurs observateurs estiment que Tbilissi a
commis une erreur en provoquant son puissant voisin.

"Les Occidentaux sont à la fois divisés et préoccupés par autre
chose. Les Américains seront furieux s’il se confirme que des avions
russes ont bombardé une base où le Pentagone avait des conseillers
militaires", observe Edward Lucas, auteur de "La Nouvelle Guerre
froide". Mais George W. Bush, "un président en fin de règne ne va pas
risquer la Troisième guerre mondiale pour la Géorgie", alors qu’il
doit déjà faire face aux conflits irakiens et afghans, écrit-il dans
une tribune pour le Times samedi.

La réponse massive des forces russes à une tentative géorgienne de
reprendre le contrôle de l’Ossétie du Sud vendredi, avec des
bombardements bien au delà de la région séparatiste, a poussé le
président géorgien Mikhaïl Saakachvili à déclarer "l’état de
guerre". Ces affrontements dans un pays pro-occidental, candidat à
l’Otan et l’Union européenne, qui a largement bénéficié de l’aide
militaire américaine, menacent directement les intérêts
occidentaux. Et Tbilissi montre de son côté des signes favorables à
une internationalisation du conflit.

"Risque de contagion, d’engrenage"

Mais le ministre des Affaires étrangères russe Sergueï Lavrov conteste
l’état de guerre et affirme que la Russie cherche à rétablir le statu
quo dans la région disputée. Michael Denison, professeur associé au
centre de recherche en relations internationales Chatham House, juge
aussi qu’il est encore trop tôt pour parler de guerre ouverte. "Les
Russes ont pénétré sur le territoire géorgien et cela est très réel,
mais je ne pense pas que l’objectif des Russes soit de détruire
complètement les capacités militaires de la Géorgie. C’est une
démonstration côté russe visant à affaiblir les capacité des
Géorgiens", estime Michael Denison. "L’escalade militaire est
possible, mais je ne suis pas sûre qu’elle soit inévitable, parce que
personne n’y a vraiment intérêt.

La Russie n’a pas intérêt à une escalade tout simplement parce qu’il y
a un Caucase du Sud, mais il y a aussi un Caucase du Nord, avec un
risque de contagion, d’engrenage", souligne Laure Delcour, directrice
de recherche à l’Institut de relations internationales et stratégiques
(Iris) à Paris. "Ni l’Union européenne ni les Etats-Unis n’ont envie
d’envoyer des forces dans la région", renchérit Michael Denison.

Un bras de fer entre les États-Unis et la Russie

Pourtant, souligne Christopher Langton, analyste de L’Institut
stratégique pour les recherches internationales (IISS), ce conflit est
autant "une affaire entre la Géorgie et l’Ossétie du Sud, qu’entre les
Etats-Unis et la Russie". "La Russie est violemment opposée à ce que
la Géorgie devienne membre de l’Otan et les Etat-Unis sont allés à la
confrontation avec la Russie sur ce sujet", souligne-t-il. Et "si la
Géorgie tombe (sous l’influence russe), alors les espoirs européens
d’une indépendance énergétique de la Russie s’écrouleront", ajoute
Edward Lucas, soulignant que la Géorgie, par où passe l’oléoduc
Bakou-Tbilissi-Ceyhan (BTC), est l’unique voie pour acheminer le
pétrole de la Caspienne échappant au monopole des routes
d’exportations russes. Laure Delcour souligne aussi le risque d’un
embrasement du Caucase, qui compte d’autres conflits gelés comme
l’Abkhazie, autre région séparatiste de Géorgie, ou le Nagorny
Karabakh, région disputée entre l’Arménie et l’Azerbaïdjan.

Signe de l’inquiétude croissante de la communauté internationale, le
secrétaire général de l’ONU Ban Ki-Moon a appelé samedi soir à la fin
immédiate des hostilités entre la Géorgie et la Russie, et à un
règlement négocié du conflit. "Le secrétaire général croit que pour
que les négociations soient fructueuses, tous les contingents armés
qui ne sont pas autorisés à être sur place par les accords respectifs
sur l’OssétieduSud devraient quitter la zone de conflit", est-il écrit
dans un communiqué.

Tskhinvali "presque entièrement détruite"

Un calme précaire était revenu dimanche matin à Tskhinvali, capitale
de ce territoire séparatiste géorgien pro-russe, après des tirs
d’artillerie intenses qui ont duré toute la nuit, selon la
porte-parole du gouvernement rebelle. Les forces géorgiennes "ont tiré
méthodiquement sur Tskhinvali toute la nuit. Mais, pour l’instant, une
accalmie relative règne dans la ville", a dit cette responsable, Irina
Gagloïeva. Elle assure que les nouveaux tirs géorgiens ont fait près
de 20 morts et 150 blessés.

Tskhinvali "est presque entièrement détruite. Les habitants se
réfugient dans les sous-sols", a déclaré dimanche le gouvernement
rebelle sur son site internet. "Des produits alimentaires de première
nécessité nous manquent, il n’y a pas de gaz, ni d’électricité",
a-t-il indiqué, qualifiant la situation à Tskhinvali de "catastrophe
humanitaire". L’OssétieduSud avait affirmé plus tôt avoir repoussé une
attaque de chars géorgiens contre Tskhinvali et avoir abattu un
bombardier géorgien.

Le Premier ministre russe Vladimir Poutine a pour sa part demandé
dimanche à une enquête sur les actes de "génocide" commis par les
forces géorgiennes en OssétieduSud, où la Géorgie a déclenché une
offensive militaire dans la nuit de jeudi à vendredi. Les témoignages
des réfugiés ossètes "dépassent le cadre de la compréhension des
actions militaires", a dit M. Poutine, au cours d’une rencontre avec
le président russe Dmitri Medvedev, qui a été retransmise en direct
par la chaîne russe Vesti 24. "A mon avis, ce sont déjà des éléments
d’une sorte de génocide contre le peuple ossète. Je crois qu’il serait
juste, que vous ordonniez au parquet militaire d’enquêter sur de tels
incidents, surtout parce que la majorité de la population ossète est
composée de citoyens russes", a déclaré M. Poutine au chef de
l’Etat. "Bien sûr, je donnerai un tel ordre", a répondu M. Medvedev,
tout en assurant que les responsables de ces actes seraient poursuivis
en justice.

Lire aussi :

Ossétie du Sud : des couloirs humanitaires pour évacuer les blessés

Spread Of African Swine Fever Completely Suppressed In Armenia: Head

SPREAD OF AFRICAN SWINE FEVER COMPLETELY SUPPRESSED IN ARMENIA: HEAD OF RA STATE VETERINARY INSPECTION

arminfo
2008-08-08 12:33:00

ArmInfo. Spread of the African swine fever has been completely
suppressed in Armenia, Head of RA State Veterinary Inspection Grisha
Baghyan told ArmInfo.

‘The recent rumours saying that the Russian airports prohibit RA
citizens to export meat products, made in Armenia, are not officially
confirmed as Rosselkhoznadzor (Russian agricultural regulatory
authority) did not officially notified us about it’, G. Baghyan
said. At the same time, he expressed opinion that the problems of
Armenia’s citizens are probably connected either with absence of a
proper documentation for import of foodstuffs in Russia or they are
explained by unauthorized "activity" of one or two airports’ employees.

To note, outbreak of the African fever virus was revealed in
early August, 2007, in two northern regions of Armenia, Lori and
Tavush. Total of 7 sources of infection were fixed in the country and,
according to the responsible persons, all the required measures were
taken to suppress spread of the virus over the whole territory of
the republic, in particular, quarantine has been introduced in the
infection sources. At the same time, the State Veterinary Service of
Armenia imposed temporary ban for import of pork from Georgia.

Armenian Police Denies Report Of Mass Resignations

ARMENIAN POLICE DENIES REPORT OF MASS RESIGNATIONS

ArmInfo News Agency (in Russian)
Aug 7 2008
Armenia

Yerevan, 7 August: Armenia’s Police has denied the report of mass
voluntary resignations from the Police, published by the Yerevan-based
[pro-opposition] Haykakan Zhamanak newspaper.

Such an allegation is groundless, the statement issued by the
press service of the Police said. In fact, a number of members of
staff have recently been dismissed for different reasons – due to
retirement or illness, or they actually voluntarily quit their jobs
in the Police. At the same time, the number of those willing to work
in the Police is several times greater than the number of those who
have quit. In conclusion, the press service of the Police advised
the paper to be more objective and conscientious.

Armenian Church Fired Upon In Istanbul

ARMENIAN CHURCH FIRED UPON IN ISTANBUL

PanARMENIAN.Net
05.08.2008 16:26 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ On August 4 morning, unknown persons commenced fire
in the territory of Surb Karapet Armenian Church in Istanbul.

According to sources in Istanbul, the unknown targeted at the
father superior’s house situated in the church yard. Fortunately,
there was nobody home at that moment, otherwise the assault could
have unpredictable consequences, reports Yerkramas, the newspaper of
Armenians of Russia.

The police launched investigation into the act of violence.

Ameriabank: Saturday Is A Working Day

AMERIABANK: SATURDAY IS A WORKING DAY

Panorama.am
20:21 06/08/2008

In August 2007, the shares of Ameriabank (former Armimpexbank) were
bought by "TDA Holdings limited" affiliated with Russian greatest
investor "Troyka Dialogue". At the moment, the capital of the bank
counts almost 8 bil. AD.

As a result of structural modifications many changes were made in
the work style of the bank as well. Thus, in the great hall of the
central office new working hours were fixed(9:30-17:00).

Moreover, taking into consideration the demands of its customers
Ameriabank also fixed new service hours for accounting/calculation
operations (every Saturday 10:00-16:00) and for systems of remuneration
(every day 9:30-19:00, and on Saturday 10:00-16:00).

ANKARA: Miroglu Makes Open Call Addressed To Birand For Unsolved Mur

MIROGLU MAKES OPEN CALL ADDRESSED TO BIRAND FOR UNSOLVED MURDERS

Today’s Zaman
Aug 7 2008
Turkey

Prominent Kurdish journalist and author Musa Anter was shot dead
almost 15 years ago, in September 1992, in Diyarbakır, where he was
attending a festival held by the municipal council.

In December 2006 the European Court of Human Rights condemned Turkey
for failing to protect Anter. The European court said in its ruling
that Turkey was aware Anter had been threatened and failed to protect
his life or conduct an effective inquiry into his death. It awarded
his children 25,000 euros for emotional damages and 3,500 euros for
court costs and expenses.

Author and politician Orhan Miroglu was with Anter on the day he was
hit by five bullets on a side street in Diyarbakır. Miroglu himself
barely survived, sustaining three gunshot wounds.

On July 10 veteran journalist Mehmet Ali Birand, also the producer of
the "32. Gun" (32nd Day) debate program aired by private TV station
Kanal D, along with Rıdvan Akar, the other producer of the program,
hosted Professor Yalcın Kucuk, prominent journalist Gulay Gökturk
and strategist Ercan Citlioglu for a discussion on the trial about to
begin over Ergenekon, an ultranationalist criminal network suspected
of plotting to overthrow the government.

According to a writer on EkÅ~_i Sözluk, a Web site built up by user
contributions, Yalcın Kucuk during the program implicitly "supported
the mentality that killed Ape Musa [Uncle Musa in Kurdish] despite
calling Anter ‘my dear friend’."

What prompted the writer was the fact that throughout the entire
program, Yalcın Kucuk exerted feverish, frantic efforts to defend
alleged illegal and illegitimate activities of Turkey’s "deep state"
— at the expense of infuriating Gökturk, who adopted a determined
stance in response to Kucuk’s provocative behavior.

In the Ergenekon indictment one witness, codenamed Deniz, said Yalcın
Kucuk, also a suspected member of Ergenekon, went to Damascus in 1993
and 1996 to meet with Abdullah Ocalan, the now-jailed leader of the
outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). He explained that Yalcın
Kucuk guided Ocalan in his armed activities. Stressing that Yalcın
Kucuk was like Ocalan’s brain, the witness said in 1996 that it was
Yalcın Kucuk who saved Ocalan from assassination in Damascus.

Opening of new season of ’32. Gun’

Yalcın Kucuk’s manner prompted Miroglu to send an open letter
dated July 18 to Birand, asking him for a chance to participate
in one of the upcoming "32. Gun" programs so that he could explain
his experience and views concerning political killings committed by
unidentified assailants.

"I told Birand in my letter that his program has just played the role
of being an occasion for making this call for a debate on political
killings committed by unidentified assailants — and this call
is not necessarily solely to Birand as the producer of "32. Gun,"
but it is also a call to the entire society," Miroglu told Today’s
Zaman yesterday.

"I haven’t yet received a clear answer; however, a few days after I
sent my letter, Akar told me on the phone that they had received my
letter. He said that they are now on holiday, thus the season was over
for "32. Gun." ‘We will consider your proposal [to join the program as
a guest] in the letter, which will be featured in an upcoming program,
and we will consider this,’ Akar added," according to Miroglu.

Ugur Mumcu, Birand, Candar and ‘andıc’ experience

"In the last quarter century, Turkey has for the first time been
encountering its real agenda, which is Ergenekon. In my opinion,
this real agenda is defending democracy against coup and coup
supporters. Without standing firm behind this agenda, the Kurdish
conflict cannot be ended, the European Union process cannot be defended
and cannot improve, and a real democracy can never be founded,"
says Miroglu in his letter to Birand.

"Let me tell you just this: If the Ergenekon gang’s plans had been
achieved, today we could have been together with you and also with
democratic people like you in a concentration camp, or we could have
shared the same destiny in a prison cell," Miroglu tells Birand.

The Ergenekon indictment stated that a document found during
the search of a house belonging to retired Brig. Gen. Veli Kucuk,
arrested as part of the Ergenekon operation in January, claimed that
a six-member Israeli group, under the direction of the American CIA,
infiltrated Turkey to assassinate journalists Ugur Mumcu and Birand
to prevent Turkey from being ruled by a religious administration. The
document was undersigned by an official from the National Intelligence
Organization (MÄ°T). Mumcu was killed in January 1993.

Another fact concerning Birand was explained by prominent intellectual
Cengiz Candar in his regular column in English-language newspaper
the Turkish Daily News on July 24.

Candar wrote that a decade ago, he, along with Birand, then a
Hurriyet columnist, and Akın Birdal, the then-chairman of the Human
Rights Association (Ä°HD), "were exposed to a military ‘andıc’,"
or "background information paper," prepared by the General Staff,
which was actually a plot against them.

"The claim was that the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK, allegedly
paid us some money, and this claim was appended by several commanders
to the confessions of the accused Å~^emdin Sakık of the PKK. It
was explained two years later that the note was necessary for
‘psychological warfare’ and its purpose was to belittle the names
mentioned in the document, including us. The ‘andıc’ was served by
some middlemen in the media in late April 1998. As a result of this,
Birand was fired by daily Sabah and my articles in the paper were
suspended. Publication of articles supporting us was also banned or
censored," Candar explained in the column, titled "From the Turkish
Revenge Brigade to Ergenekon."

‘Samasts’ of this country

Returning to Miroglu’s letter, he says Yalcın Kucuk has been used
to playing the role of a "genius on the brink of insanity" and also
likes to be treated as such.

"We should not forget about children who are growing up with the
cursed ideas of Yalcın Kucuk and of those similar to Yalcın Kucuk
— children who are growing up in darkness! We should not forget that
those who have been nourished by thoughts spread by the theoreticians
of Ergenekon, and should not forget murders committed [by those
children] in the cause of these thoughts!

"We should always keep in mind that Ogun Samast, after killing Hrant
[Dink], as he was escaping, shouted, ‘I killed a non-Muslim, I killed
an Armenian!’ Look what one of those children wrote to me a week ago:
‘You should know that I’m ready to do everything, but everything,
not to leave this country to people like you. Be assured that there
are thousands like me, and be worried!’

"… Ergenekon is something beyond being a coup plan," Miroglu says,
underlining the vital importance he attaches to the need for Turkey’s
people to face up to the country’s bitter recent history with courage.

He adds that the Ergenekon organization’s activities in the Southeast
should be investigated first in order to gain a comprehensive picture
of how the organization is organized and to take effective action
against it.

"I wonder if there is another country on the earth whose generals
plan to kill that country’s Nobel Prize-winning author?" he asks,
referring to the fact that the Ergenekon indictment revealed that the
Ergenekon network had incited the perpetrators of deadly attacks on
some important public figures, including Nobel Prize-winning author
Orhan Pamuk.

Miroglu concludes his lengthy letter to Birand by saying: "Now is the
exact time for asking as ‘What about the Ergenekon on the other side
of the Euphrates,’ at the expense of infuriating Yalcın Kucuk and his
‘commanders’."

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BAKU: Bryza Is Wrong In Taking The Idea Of A Vote On The Status Of N

BRYZA IS WRONG IN TAKING THE IDEA OF A VOTE ON THE STATUS OF NK

Day.Az
Aug 2 2008
Azerbaijan

Matthew Bryza is wrong in taking the idea of a vote on the status of
the mountainous part of Karabakh out of the entire context of talks

Day.az interview with Azerbaijani political analyst Ilqar Mammadov

[Interviewer] How would comment on the statement by the US co-chairman
of the OSCE Minsk Group, Matthew Bryza, that the status of Nagornyy
Karabakh should be determined by voting either through a plebiscite
or a referendum of the people in that region.

[Mammadov] This statement reflects only part of the well-known topics
which are now on the negotiating table. The parties do not have full
agreement on all of them. For example, there is agreement between
Baku and Yerevan to discuss the idea of determining the status of the
mountainous part of Karabakh on the basis of a certain vote. But there
are questions here, such as: what does "the population" mean? When,
where and on which procedure is the votesupposed to take place? Baku
believes that the population of the mountainous part of Karabakh also
includes Azerbaijanis who were driven out of that region, the vote can
be conducted only after long-term co-existence of these Armenians and
Azerbaijanis in that region is ensured and the vote must take place
only on the status of the region within Azerbaijan. But Yerevan says
that a referendum on independence should be conducted as soon as
possible and only ethnic Armenians [of that region] must vote.

That is why it is impossible to say that Bryza has said something
new. But he or the media quoting him is wrong in taking the idea
of a vote on the status of the mountainous part of Karabakh out of
the entire context of the talks. I do not think that the Azerbaijani
authorities took a right step in agreeing four years ago to discussing
the idea of such a vote.Moreover, those who speak about it must take
into account all conditions of such agreement.

[Interviewer] But it is evident that the number of ethnic Armenians
in Nagornyy Karabakh was much bigger than that of ethnic Azerbaijanis
due to the known reasons before the conflict started.

[Mammadov] First, most of the Armenians have already left
there. Second, most of the Azerbaijanis driven out of Karabakh have
made families and children. If all of them return to the former
Nagornyy Karabakh Autonomous Region, the Armenians may not have the
demographic advantage in this part of Azerbaijan they once had after
the occupation of those lands by the Tsarist Russia. In addition,
procedural issues are also important. For example, a "referendum" has
recently been held in the occupied territories of Azerbaijan, which
required a two-third of votes to validate the outcome of the vote.

[Interviewer] Even if we ensure the equality of the ethnic composition
in Nagornyy Karabakh in some means, the Armenians may attempt to
influence the outcome of the vote due to their favourite policy of
illegal settlements in the territories they did not own before the
referendum.

[Mammadov] The Azerbaijani side can also resort to similar methods
if the developments go that way.

[Interviewer] Mathew Bryza is noted for his habit of denying many big
statements on the settlement of the Karabakh conflict. May the American
diplomat say this time again that journalists misunderstood him?

[Mammadov] I think that this statement indeed reflects Matthew Bryza’s
thoughts. It is another question that the position of the co-chairmen
to the problem is extremely unfair. Unfortunately, our government
indulges them. For example, why is the population of Karabakh entitled
to a vote, but the population of Zangazur [an Armenian region that was
home to ethnic Azerbaijanis before the start of the Karabakh conflict]
is not? Do the co-chairmen really recognize that the successful use
of violence by the authorities in the Republic of Armenia against the
Azerbaijani population of Zangazur creates some rights for Karabakh
Armenians and deprives the rights of Azerbaijanis of Zangazur, who
were three times more at the start of the conflict? Do they really
think that Baku is to blame for failing to use effective force against
Karabakh Armenians? Then, this is a direct call to war.

Or, let us take a definition called "the corridor between Karabakh and
Armenia", which Bryza also mentioned earlier. There will not be peace
in the South Caucasus if we think about it in the way of corridors like
"a corridor or not a corridor". We need real regional integration, but
not temporary corridors from war to war. If we talk about corridors,
then the corridor to Naxcivan is a sacred right of Azerbaijan. Why
did Bryza forget about it?

[Interviewer] In any case, Bryza’s statement has caused a lot of
fuss outside the conflict region. In particular, the leader of the
Abkhaz separatists, Sergey Bagapsh, welcomed the statement of the US
co-chairman. Hearing from the US diplomat about the decision to hold
a referendum in Nagornyy Karabakh, Bagapsh called on the USA to take
on board the outcomes of voting in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. What
do you think about this?

[Mammadov] As can be seen, Bagapsh did not even understand what
Matthew Bryza meant. He did not say who would take part in a supposed
vote. If the Georgians who were driven out of Abkhazia return there,
the idea of independence of Abkhazia will fail in the referendum.

Iron Against Granite

IRON AGAINST GRANITE
By Paul Wood

Barre Montpelier Times Argus
Aug 4 2008
VT

Blacksmiths were essential in conquering the hard stone

This is the latest in a series of monthly articles on the history
of Vermont’s granite industry provided by the Vermont Granite Museum
of Barre.

The Vermont Granite Museum is installing a working blacksmith shop
in its historic Jones Brothers granite shed. The shop will include
a spectrum of blacksmithing tools and machinery, including forges,
tongs to hold granite-working tools, anvils, hammers, quenching tubs,
hardy blocks, trip hammers, grinders, tool racks, and work benches.

The tools and machinery have been donated by Norm Akley and Lauren
LaMorte of the Trow & Holden Co. The shop will be manned by experienced
blacksmiths, who will hold blacksmithing workshops as part of the
Stone Arts School curriculum. Local blacksmiths Jim Fecteau and
Richard Spreda have helped in the planning for both the blacksmith
shop and Stone Arts School workshops.

The use of iron and steel in quarrying, moving and finishing of granite
is almost endless. It is fair to say that without iron and steel,
granite would never have developed into a major industry. By the
early-20th century, granite manufacturers and tool-making companies
in Barre were employing hundreds of blacksmiths and machinists. As
the cost of iron decreased and stronger steels became available, more
of the wooden components of machinery used in the granite industry
were replaced by iron and steel until most machines were devoid of
wooden parts.

Granite manufacture involves the use of iron or steel tools directly
impacting, crushing or abrading the granite. Quarrying depends on
deep hole quarry drills and bits, jackhammers, plug drills, wedges
and shims, boom derricks and hoists, air compressors and compressed
air pipes, chains, cables and hooks. Finishing employs hand hammers
and chisels, gang, circular, tubular and wire saws, surfacing and
polishing machines and lathes.

The power sources that operated this machinery – water turbines,
steam engines, electric generators, electric motors, shafts, pulleys,
and gears – primarily were constructed from iron and steel. In the
late-1800s, iron and steel replaced sand as the primary abrasive used
in granite finishing, including cast, chilled and broken iron shot,
and chilled and broken steel shot. Iron and steel also made possible
the granite-clad building that, in addition to the iron and steel
supporting framework, required iron anchors, clamps and pins to
hold the granite ashlars of the curtain wall to each other and to
the backing brick masonry. Finally, the primary movers of granite –
derricks, cableways, overhead cranes, locomotives, flatcars, and
gondola cars – all have a high content of iron and steel.

Early Egyptians, circa 3300 to 1200 BC, used copper saws and drills
with dry sand abrasive to cut and shape granite sarcophagi and blocks
for pyramids. This relatively soft metal wore out rapidly and required
frequent replacement. Iron was rarely found pure and almost always
was in combination with oxygen and, since the separation of iron
from its ore required smelting at a high temperature, this first
common man’s metal did not become available until much later than
copper. While the smelting of iron appeared early in Africa, China,
and India, knowledge of this process probably came to ancient Greece
from the Armenians and Chalybes of Asia Minor. By 1200 to 600 BC,
the Greeks were using hard iron axes, chisels, drills and saws for
quarrying and working stone. Not only did iron wear longer, it was
much less expensive than copper. Some of the iron tools used to work
stone for the classic Greek and Roman buildings and statuary still
are in use in today’s granite industry, with only minor modifications.

Many American granite-working machines had European and slate and
marble industry antecedents. The Aberdeen region of Scotland is
credited with originating the overhead traveling crane, the cableway
(Blondin) and the stone-cutting lathes that were introduced into and
improved by the American granite industry. Later, America reciprocated
by sending to Scotland the pneumatic carving tool and the "Jenny
Lind" polishing machine. Machinery that had earlier been designed by
such companies as F.R. Patch Co. and the Lincoln Iron Works, both of
Rutland, for slate and marble were redesigned into heavier and more
robust machines for the harder and more difficult to work granite.

The early village blacksmith worked in an agricultural community and
supplied local farmers with horse and ox shoes, with farming tools
such as axes, hoes, and plows, and with building materials, such as
nails, hinges and latches.

As the rapid growth of the Barre granite industry began in the 1880s,
some blacksmiths recognized the business potential and started to
make granite-working tools. For example, in 1885, blacksmith James
Ahern began the manufacture of tools in a shop on Granite Street that
evolved into Granite City Tool Co., Barre’s longest-operating granite
tool supplier. Ahern was the first Barre manufacturer of granite
cutting tools, and produced the first complete line of tools that,
by the 1910s, included striking hammers, bull sets, surface points,
surface bush hammers, bush chisels, hand points, hand chisels, hand
sets, hand chippers, bush hammers, scotia hammers, hand hammers, paving
cutter’s hammers, drills, tracers, and wedges and shims. James Ahern
claimed his tools were "tempered by a secret process in use 25 years."

During the late-1880s and early-1890s, five additional businesses were
established in Barre for the manufacture of granite working tools
– Hobbs & McDonald (1887), Ranney & Vaughn (1890), Brown & Kennedy
(1891), Marr & Thompson (1893) and McKenzie & Charles (1895). All were
short-lived, except for Hobbs & McDonald (renamed Barre Granite Tool
Works) that was purchased in 1891 by Clark Holden and John Trow. They
renamed the company Trow & Holden Co. and moved the operation into the
Stafford, Holden Manufacturing Co. plant on South Main Street. Some of
the machinery that had previously been used to manufacture hay forks
and manure forks was now used to manufacture granite-working tools.

Twenty-one-year-old Joshua Thwing purchased a flour mill in North
Barre in 1805 and added a machine shop and Vermont’s first foundry. The
Thwing Iron Works was enlarged in 1833 and finally sold to J.M. Smith,
W.E. Whitcomb and B.B. Cook in 1868. In the 1870s, Smith, Whitcomb &
Cook Co. started casting derrick irons for the Barre boom derrick
and manufacturing Barre’s first granite polishing machine. Smith,
Whitcomb & Cook later evolved into a manufacturer of a broad range of
granite-working machinery including Carborundum grinders, surfacing
machines and wire saws.

Finally, in the 1950s, the company was owned by a consortium of Barre
granite manufacturers. Vermont had a number of other foundries that
manufactured granite working and handling machinery. Some of the
other major Vermont foundries (with the most notable granite product
listed) were Lane Manufacturing Co. of Montpelier (overhead cranes),
Grearson-Lane Co. of Barre (lathes), Patch-Wegner Co. of Rutland
(polishing machines), Cooley-Wright Co. of Montpelier (polishing
machines), Lincoln Iron Works of Rutland (gang saws), and O.V. Hooker &
Sons of St. Johnsbury (derrick irons).

Jones Brothers had complete facilities for sharpening, tempering and
repairing iron and steel tools and for the design, manufacture and
repair of all but the most complex machinery. A sharpening room alcove,
attached to Shed No. 1 near a majority of the stonecutters, housed
six flat belt-driven five-foot diameter grinding wheels. Stonecutter
chisels and surfacer bush chisel cuts were sharpened on these wheels
under a constant flow of water by three grinder operators. (This alcove
was the site of the Jones Brothers’ blacksmith shop, circa 1900-1920,
and will be the location of the new operating blacksmith mentioned
earlier.) Tool boys shuttled the dulled tools to the sharpening room
and the sharpened tools back to the stonecutters. Jones Brothers also
owned a sharpening machine, manufactured by the Pirie Tool Sharpening
Machine Co. of Montpelier that was housed in Shed No. 3. This
specialized machine, designed by Willis A. Lane of Barre, sharpened
the 8-inch to 18-inch diameter cutting discs for the cutting lathes
and the McDonald mechanical surfacers. After sharpening on the Pirie
machine, the discs needed to be tempered and hardened by a blacksmith
at a forge and quenching tub. This involved heating the discs until
overall white, thereby producing a hard long-lasting cutting edge.

A freestanding Jones Brothers blacksmith shop, built around 1920
north of Shed No. 1, had two forges and anvils with an adjacent
brine tempering pit, pneumatic and belt-driven trip hammers, and an
oil-and-water tempering machine designed by Barre mechanic, Willis
A. Lane.

There were two blacksmiths – one specialized in sharpening, tempering
and repairing hand tools and the other specialized in sharpening
surfacing machine tooth chisels. (Before the era of the powered
grinding wheel for sharpening, stonecutter contracts called for
one blacksmith for every 10 to 15 stonecutters.) The blacksmith
shop could, when necessary, design and fabricate new tools. Jones
Brothers also had a fully equipped machine shop, staffed by two
full-time machinists, with a large lathe, two medium-size lathes,
a small fine work lathe, large and small belt-driven drill presses,
floor and hand-held grinders, welding tools, a steel-top welding
bench, wooden workbenches, and pigeonhole storage bins. The machine
shop could fabricate replacement parts for any of Jones Brothers’
granite-working machinery and pneumatic tools, and often designed and
built specialized custom machines such as suspended polishing machines,
diamond circular saws and machinery to manufacture chocolate rolls.

The Vermont Granite Museum is planning to move the historic
Anderson-Friberg Co. blacksmith shop from Willey Street to the
old Jones Brothers’ blacksmith shop building located south of Shed
No. 1. This second blacksmith shop will recreate an authentic granite
company shop of the early-1900s and will be for display only.

The AFCO shop is the gift of Bob Pope and the Swenson Granite Co. The
shop interior is unchanged from the 1950s, when it went into disuse,
probably due to the introduction of carbide-tip tools which require
only infrequent sharpening.

The shop includes a two-hearth brick forge with electric motor-driven
blower, two anvils, tool rack, quenching tub, post drill, heating
stove, tool crib and coal bin. A belt-driven trip hammer, grinder and
power hacksaw are powered by a single ceiling-mounted electric motor
through overhead shafting and pulleys. The blacksmith’s shirt stills
hangs on a wall hook and his safety glasses lay on a work bench –
as if he had just stepped out of the shop.