Diplomacy Rules – Turkey And Armenia Sign Historic Protocols

DIPLOMACY RULES – TURKEY AND ARMENIA SIGN HISTORIC PROTOCOLS

Jane’s Intelligence
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Nov 11 2009

The foreign ministers of Armenia and Turkey signed a series of
protocols on 10 October, marking a historic breakthrough in relations
between the two states.

The mundane titles of the agreements – the Protocol on the
establishment of diplomatic relations between the Republic of Armenia
and Republic of Turkey and the Protocol on the development of relations
– belie the historic nature of the accord between the two states,
which have never established formal diplomatic relations.

The agreements are a culmination of a series of contacts that began
with Armenian President Sergh Sarkisian invitating Turkish President
Abdullah Gul to visit Yerevan for a football World Cup qualifying
match between the two national teams in September 2008. Six months
later, the presidents instructed their foreign ministers to develop
a bilateral agreement.

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Economy Ministry: Tourist Flow To Armenia Grows 5.8% In JAN-SEPT 200

ECONOMY MINISTRY: TOURIST FLOW TO ARMENIA GROWS 5.8% IN JAN-SEPT 2009

ARKA
Nov 9, 2009

YEREVAN, November 9. /ARKA/. Tourist flow to Armenia grew 5.8% in
Jan-Sept 2009, compared with the same period a year before, Mekhak
Apresyan, chief of Armenian economy ministry’s tourism unit, said
Monday at a press conference in Novosti International Press Centre.

He said 422,8 tourists have visited Armenia for nine months of
this year.

"The pace of tourist inflow slowed down in Jan-Sept 2009, while
over the period between 2001 and 2008 Armenia used to record 25%
growth every year," Apresyan said adding that nevertheless, the
country enjoyed some growth in the mentioned period of this year,
and this is a positive fact.

He said that these results are close to the predicted indicators,
especially taking into account that the world faced 3% average decline
and Europe 10 to 17% fall in Jan-Sept 2009.

"Winter season is coming, but we hope that the growth will continue,
and we won’t record annual decline in tourism area."

Referring to statistical reports, Apresyan said that the tourist
outflow grew 1.2% in Jan-Sept 2009, and tourism inside the country
grew 0.12%.

Apresyan also stressed that despite the global recession, tourists’
expenses in Armenia are virtually remained unchanged – at $700 to
800 per tourist, excluding air fares.

"The majority of travelers to Armenia are above middle-age foreigners,
who live on pensions. They haven’t been impacted by the crisis."

The economy ministry’s figures show that Armenia can expect seven-
to ten-percent tourists inflow growth in 2009.

Sargis Hovsepyan Won’t Leave Pyunic Club

SARGIS HOVSEPYAN WON’T LEAVE PYUNIC CLUB

Aysor
Nov 10 2009
Armenia

Captain of Armenian Pyunik football team Sargis Hovsepyan will not
leave club, he announced at the press-conference. Recent triumphs and
winning became traditional for Pyunik club, he said adding that he
is seeking to success at prestigious championships as well as being
among team’s staff.

"Winning becomes a natural developing for Pyunik. We always focus on
winning and seeding first while other teams think to seed second or
third is a success. My chief objective is to reach success as team
member and at Champions League," said Sargis Hovsepyan.

ANKARA: Expansion, Not Shift In The Turkish Foreign Policy Axis

EXPANSION, NOT SHIFT IN THE TURKISH FOREIGN POLICY AXIS
Ihsan Bal

Journal of Turkish Weekly
Nov 10 2009

The criticisms directed at the improvement of Turkey’s relations with
the ‘East’ result from the lack of faith in Turkey’s transformative
power. The new Turkish interest in the East and South has been the
outcome of Turkey starting to ‘read’ its neighborhood through its
own lenses, from where it firmly dwells.

The claims that Turkish foreign policy orientation has changed
and Turkey left the ‘West’ to turn its face towards the ‘East’
have been insistently kept on the agenda recently. Such claims have
been supported by the agreements Turkey signed with Middle Eastern
countries and the increasing trade volume between these countries
and Turkey. The most recent visit the Turkish Prime Minister paid to
Iran and the problems in Turkish-Israeli relations that emerged in
prior, have even led to claims that Turkish foreign policy is being
Islamized. Is Turkey really turning its face towards the East in the
light of foreign policy theory, solid evidence and the values Turkish
foreign policy has come to rest upon for so long?

Foreign Policy Posture Based on Values

The most striking answer to this question has been given by the
Turkish President Abdullah Gul, who held Turkish Foreign Minister
post for years, during his speech entitled ‘Turkish Foreign Policy
In a New Era’ at the opening of USAK/ISRO (International Strategic
Research Organization) House recently:

"’Where is Turkey heading to?’;, ‘Is Turkey heading to the East?’;,
‘Which direction Turkey is heading to?’. As if Turkey is bewildered
and can easily get dragged by any wave to any port. Let me be honest.

Turkey is well aware what steps it has been taking and why. Of course,
Turkey is moving in all directions, towards East, South, North, and
West. The important point is this: In which direction have Turkey’s
values been developing? Democratic values, the rule of law, respect for
human rights, transparency, accountability, equality between men and
women, free market economy; if in which direction Turkey is moving with
respect to these values is taken into consideration, which direction
Turkey has been heading towards can also be understood better."

As an experienced politician, academician and head of the Turkish
state, the Turkish President has set the best criteria to judge the
direction in Turkish foreign policy: the values it stands for.

According to Gul, those who want to know the direction Turkey is moving
towards ought to consider not Turkey’s economic, diplomatic and daily
relations but rather which values system Turkey has adopted and has
been trying to advance. When one does that which values Turkey has
embraced and stands for is undoubtedly clear.

Better economic, political and military relations developed between
Turkey and Middle Eastern countries should not be taken as surprising.

Similar to amicable relations developed between France, Germany, the
U.S. and other countries, Turkey has to establish friendly relations
with its neighbors. The fact that the trade volume between Turkey and
Iran and Syria goes up and Turkey invests directly in those countries
does not mean that Turkey approves of the types of regimes in these
countries and that Turkey aspires to be one of them. In contrast,
Turkey, as a model country, has been trying to inspire these countries
along the lines of Western principles and values. In other words,
Turkey is not heading towards the East but carrying Western values
to the East while maintaining its ‘long march’ towards the West.

While contributing to Turkey’s material interests, tourism, trade
and direct investment also help Turkey carry Western values such
as liberal democracy and liberal economy to the East. The Iranian,
Lebanese or Israeli tourists that visit Turkey for holiday do not
only benefit from sea, sand and sun but freedoms and the taste of
cooperation are also carried along with the taste of the warm ‘sands.’

Alas, the ‘zero-problem with neighbors’ mentality in Turkish foreign
policy and spike in trade volume with neighbors are presented as
evidence for ‘Easternization’ in Turkish foreign policy. Yet, what is
more normal for a country’s desire to increase its trade volume with
its neighbors? How do those who do not talk about ‘Easternization’
in French foreign policy when France preserves its interests in the
Middle East and increases its trade with regional countries justify
their accusations against Turkey of turning to the East? How can
someone else’s ‘right’ be ‘forbidden’ for Turkey?

Reading the Neighborhood Through its Own Lenses

Turkey has been building the culture of cooperation in its
neighborhood. Turkish President Abdullah Gul proclaimed in front of
Turkey’s most distinguished diplomats, journalists and intellectuals
that "Turkish foreign policy rests on the fundamental principle that
does not see others’ losses as our gain, aims at advancing mutual
interests and win-win situations." In other words, the Turkish outlook
is not based on "as long as I win, the rest does not matter." Ankara
is following an ethical foreign policy. The outcome of that stance
has been the emergence of an appropriate ground for solving seemingly
intractable and perennial problems around it. And this is what disturbs
many, inside and outside alike.

It should be noted in the meantime that the proponents of the claim
that Turkey has been turning its face towards the East have kept
Turkish Premier’s visit to Iran in mind while they have totally
ignored Turkish President Abdullah Gul’s visits to Serbia and
Slovakia. Likewise, the Turkish Prime Minister’s visit to Greece
also shows that Turkey is not devoting its energy to one particular
region and that Turkey has a wide foreign policy perspective. Turkey
has kept its stance not in the Middle East but also in the Balkans,
Africa, Afghanistan, and China.

The Turkish President’s visit to Serbia illustrates the last point
well: Turkish-Serbian relations that had been problematic and even
hostile for a long time have drastically changed after the Turkish
President’s 25-27 October ‘operation.’ We have all seen how a former
‘foe’ has been transformed into a close friend. Serbian people that
do not wave American flags have decorated their streets with Turkish
flags; they treated their Turkish guests with great hospitality.

Several agreements were signed during the visit. Breaking prejudices
between the nations, Turkey has obtained the status of ‘privileged
country’ in its relations with Serbia, which, apart from Turkey, only
Russia enjoys. Both sides have agreed on the aim to make Turkey the
number one touristic destination. Serbian President Tadic repeatedly
said during the visit that "stability in the Balkans is not possible
without Turkey."

In short, Turkish foreign policy should not be viewed through a narrow
perspective. Selectively picked pictures and sentences do not give
the whole new picture in Turkish foreign policy. They do not explain
why Turkey, which is claimed to be on its way to Islamize its foreign
policy, has been establishing ever closer relations with Georgia, a
predominantly Christian majority country, and why it has been signing
agreements amounting almost to strategic cooperation agreements with
Serbia, which except groups that have ethnic or religious ties to
it, even the NATO had punished severely before. Such accounts with
limited perspectives do not also explain why Turkey has been trying
to solve its long-standing and entrenched problems with Armenia,
signing ambitious agreements with Russia and concurring with the
Obama Administration on major issues in the regions around Turkey.

"The conscience of its region"

What is being missed amidst the controversies about an alleged shift
in Turkish foreign policy axis is the fact that Turkey has stopped
its former habit of reading ‘the East through the lenses of the West.’
Therefore, the controversy surrounding Turkish foreign policy is the
consequence of the bewilderment of those who had gotten accustomed
to reading Beirut, Damascus, and Baghdad over London, Washington and
Paris. As the virtual boundaries between Turkey and the East have been
removed Turkey is facing the East directly. Those who define Turkey’s
will to be part of the solution to the problems of the East with its
self-formulated prescriptions as a ‘shift of axis in foreign policy’
are falling into the grave mistake of trying to read Turkey based on
its erstwhile habits.

Admittedly, Turkey is more active and visible in the Middle East,
Caucasus, the Balkans, and Africa; however, this does not exhibit a
move away from the West but rather remembering the East.

Turkey is close enough to its friends and has the courage and wisdom
to warn them over their wrongdoings. Turkey is "the conscience of
its region"[1] in that sense. On the contrary, in the words of the
President Gul, Turkey has been pursuing an "ethical foreign policy."

Turkey’s attitude towards telling its friends in the region their
vices as much as it praises their virtues is significant in treating
the double-faced approaches that underlie the long-standing problems
in its neighborhood. Turkey has already scored success in the Middle
East streets thanks to its principled foreign policy.

Even though the Israeli government and some Western journalists
aligned with it prefer blaming Turkey, Turkish warning to Israel over
its vices in treating the Palestinians has not only been praised by
the Palestinians and Arabs but also by sensitive Israelis. After all,
Turkey is not blocking the water flow to or enforcing an arms embargo
on Israel; on the contrary, Turkey has been putting intensive effort
in the fields of economy and trade to improve the lives of Israeli
people. It has gone to great lengths in ensuring that Israel corrects
human rights violations and the disproportionate use of force in
its war against terrorism. Turkey has even invested in Palestine by
building factories, admitting Palestinian students to Turkey to help
the Palestinian police be trained according to universal values and
warning Palestinians to take into account Israel’s security concerns,
to contribute to Israel’s security.

Transformative Power

The critical and vital nature of the role Turkey has assumed by being
the ‘conscience of its region’ can be seen in these examples. New
Turkish involvement, therefore, should be explained not as a ‘shift of
axis in Turkish foreign policy’ but with the principles underlying it.

The criticisms against close relations developed between Turkey
and countries in the ‘East’ have resulted from the lack of faith
in Turkey’s transformative power. At this point, President Gul
has stressed that "plurality of opinions expressed and freedom to
discuss such matters have amplified Turkey’s strength day by day
and the variety of viewpoints has been the pushing factor behind a
stronger Turkey." By asserting that "Turkey’s ‘arteries’ are strong,
its fundamental beliefs and values are irreversibly internalized" the
President pointed out that Turkey is not a country of tergiversation
and that activism in the East does not mean turning its back on the
West and being present in the South is not leaving the North.

The new directions and openings in Turkish foreign policy are the
results of Turkey’s deliberate choice to be the ‘conscience of its
region’ instead of eschewing the Middle East and to read its immediate
neighborhood directly through its own lenses, from where it stands
historically, geographically, and culturally. They also denote Turkey’s
accumulated economic value, entrepreneurship, determination to spread
its plural democracy, of which standards it has been raising day by day
and the powerful middle class, intellectual experience and societal
support that stand behind it all. The western-centered evaluations,
perspectives devoid of self-confidence, superficial analyses and
easy categorizations of those who cannot read the new developments
in Turkish foreign policy are far away from accounting for today’s
Turkey and laying down the true wider picture in that regard.

Prof. Dr. Ihsan Bal. Director, Center for Security, Terrorism and
Ethnic Conflict Studies, USAK/ISRO

*A version of this article in Turkish was first
published in Star newspaper on November 09,
2009. It can be reached at the following address:
ye-eksen-degistirmiyor-eksenini-genisletiyor-haber -224122.htm

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[1] Sedat Laciner, "Etik Bir DıÅ~_
Politika," USAK Gundem. November 6, 2009,
r-d%C4%B1%C5%9F-politika.html

http://www.stargazete.com/acikgorus/turki
http://www.usakgundem.com/yazar/1296/etik-bi

At Least It Won’t Get Any Worse Than This: Gagik Minasyan On Economi

AT LEAST IT WON’T GET ANY WORSE THAN THIS: GAGIK MINASYAN ON ECONOMIC CRISIS

Tert
Nov 10 2009
Armenia

The current global economic crisis is unprecedented, said the chair of
the National Assembly Standing Committee on Financial-Credit, Budgetary
and Economic Affairs, Gagik Minasyan, at a press conference today.

The economic crisis has left a serious mark on different countries and
Armenia, in Minasyan’s words, is no exception. He based his opinion
on the following: "We had predicted a 9.2% economic increase for 2009,
but we anticipate that this year will end with a 15% decline."

This, in the committee chair’s view, proves how deep and immune to
forecasts the crisis really is. Minasyan recalled various authoritative
international bodies who for the past 6 months have changed their
forecasts a few times.

"However, according to economic analysts, we find ourselves at the
base of the economic crisis; that is, any more of a decline is not
expected," believes Minasyan.

There are issues, according to Minasyan, for which there are no
answers, that interfere with making sound predictions for the coming
year. For one thing, it’s not clear for how long we will remain at
the minimum indicator level, and secondly, it’s difficult to say how
the economy will rise.

"One thing is for certain: the decline was more drastic than we
expected," concluded Minasyan.

Kojoyian Stays Young At Heart On Gridiron

KOJOYIAN STAYS YOUNG AT HEART ON GRIDIRON
By Marvin Pave

The Boston Globe
November 8, 2009 Sunday

Fifty-seven years after accepting his first head football coaching job
at Westborough High, 34 years after assuming the same role at Newton
South High, and 16 years after being inducted into the Massachusetts
High School Football Coaches Hall of Fame, 82-year-old Art Kojoyian
is still doing the job that keeps him young at heart.

Kojoyian is in his eighth season as the line coach at James Madison
High in Vienna, Va., his 58th consecutive season as a high school
football coach.

But it is the 28 years that he served as an assistant and head
football coach, as well as the head wrestling coach, at Newton South
that will bring Kojoyian back to the city on Nov. 27, when he will
be inducted into the school’s Athletic Hall of Fame as a member of
its inaugural class.

"I still enjoy working with the kids and getting down in that
three-point stance to demonstrate how to play the line," said Kojoyian,
a Westborough native who has resided in Reston, Va., since 1990. In the
late 1940s and early ’50s, he was a two-way guard at George Washington
University, once suiting up against a University of Kentucky team
under the direction of the legendary Paul "Bear" Bryant.

"Going into the hall of fame is a great thrill," he said.

"Westborough was my home and Newton was my second home. I coached
my son Arty there in football and my other son, Armen, in football
and wrestling."

It will be a nostalgic Thanksgiving week for Kojoyian, affectionately
called "Kongie" by those closest to him.

He will be introduced at the inauguration ceremonies by the man who
preceded him as the head coach at Newton South, fellow inductee and
close friend George Winkler, for whom the school’s football field is
named. Kojoyian was his assistant coach for 12 years, starting in 1962.

"I scouted some of Kongie’s Westborough players when I was an assistant
coach at Boston University, knew how good a coach he was, and wanted
him on my staff," said Winkler, like Kojoyian a member of the high
school coaches’ halls of fame for both football and wrestling.

On Thanksgiving Day, Winkler and Kojoyian plan to be in the stands
to watch the Lions take on the visiting Lincoln-Sudbury Regional High
squad, whose head coach, Tom Lopez, is a former Newton South football
captain. Lopez and Harry Crump, who played for Kojoyian at Westborough
High and went on to star at Boston College, introduced him at his
induction into the state football coaching group’s pantheon in 1993.

"It doesn’t surprise me he’s still coaching," said Lopez, a standout
end who played for Winkler and Kojoyian from 1962-64 and whose
interview for a position at Lincoln-Sudbury was arranged by Kojoyian
after Lopez’s graduation from Bates College. "He’s unique and I love
the man. Kongie has done a ton of good things for young people."

As the head coach at Newton South from 1975-90, Kojoyian’s teams
compiled a 59-89-8 record, but there were milestone moments: The
1981 team finished 7-3, the program’s best record in 14 years,
and the 1983 squad went 8-1-1 and won the Lions’ first – and only –
Dual County League championship.

Lopez and Kojoyian were coaching rivals on many Thanksgiving mornings,
and Lopez said that if the Lions prevailed, the phone would ring at
his home later that day, Kojoyian on the other end asking, "hey, Tom,
how does that turkey taste today?"

Kojoyian said it was all in good fun, adding, "Tom was the most
coachable player I’ve ever been around. I started at Newton South the
first year he played at the high school and it’s been a special bond."

James Madison head coach Gordon Leib said that Kojoyian has the
"most energy of anyone on my staff and it’s been a privilege to be
alongside him.

"He’s said to me that if he couldn’t take a kid and turn him into a
football player, he’d quit coaching – and that hasn’t happened. Our
players call him `the flipper’ because he likes to teach the flipper
block, using the shoulder, forearm and hips."

Newton South athletic director – and graduate – Scott Perrin said
playing for Kojoyian at the school was "a privilege and something I
have always reflected on. He was a great technical football coach,
but an even greater teacher of life."

Kojoyian, who works out at a health club several days a week and plays
a monthly low-stakes poker game with his former George Washington
teammates, was brought up on a farm adjacent to Route 9 in Westborough
with his brother, Sarkis, who died in March.

His Armenian parents, Vahan and Miriam, came to Watertown from Turkey.

Vahan saved enough money working for Hood Rubber to buy the farm. The
house was heated by a wood stove, and water was supplied by an
outdoor pump. A refrigerator, electricity, and indoor plumbing were
added later.

"We’d milk the cows early in the morning, deliver eggs and do whatever
chores needed to be done," said Kojoyian, who walked 3 miles back to
the farm after football practice at Westborough High.

"Growing up like that, you learn what life is really like and how
to cope and it has made me a stronger person. I was lucky enough to
play football while in the service in Maryland and catch the eye of
the coaches at George Washington."

His birth name is Avedis, but it was changed to Art by the sports
information staff at George Washington for the football program,
and it stuck.

Fresh out of college, Kojoyian was hired as head football and baseball
coach and JV basketball coach at Westborough High. The first couple
of seasons he was a one-man staff. Although his complete record at
Westborough High is unavailable, he recalled losing just one game in
1952, and according to school yearbooks, his teams were 28-13-4 from
1955 to 1960, including a league championship in 1960.

"He was a demanding, knowledgeable coach who put the helmet on and
showed us how to block and tackle, a great motivator who taught me
how to be prepared, something I’ve taken with me," said Crump, who
played two seasons as a running back with the Boston Patriots.

Crump’s brother, Ronnie, who went on to captain the Worcester
Polytechnic Institute football team, remembers the time his nose was
broken during a game against Millbury High.

"Kongie was told by the team doctor that he needed permission from
my parents to stay in the game," said Crump, "so he found my dad who
told him it was OK. I came back with gauze in my nose for the second
half, and a couple of weeks later I played in the Thanksgiving Day
game with a special cage on my helmet."

Kojoyian on occasion asked his players to round up the hundreds of
chickens on the family farm for vaccinations, and he also called
on former players to scrimmage against the Westborough varsity the
Saturday before the traditional Thanksgiving game against Northborough
(now Algonquin Regional High) to keep them sharp.

"He had a locker for me and a Westborough jersey when I was a
5-year-old water boy for the team," said his son, Armen. "I’ll never
forget it."

Arty Kojoyian, a former Newton South football captain, said his father
had the ability to get the most out of the players who weren’t stars.

"He’s a teacher at heart," he said of his father, "and he’s excited
about coming back to Newton."

Kojoyian, who also coached the line at St. John’s High in Washington,
D.C., and South Lakes High in Reston, Va., said he has no plans to
stop coaching. "Football changed my life and gave me the opportunity
to coach. The experience has meant much more to me than the money
I’ve been paid to do it."

RA Defence Minister Leaves For Dushanbe

RA DEFENCE MINISTER LEAVES FOR DUSHANBE

Noyan Tapan
Nov 9, 2009

YEREVAN, NOVEMBER 9, NOYAN TAPAN. A delegation led by RA Defence
Minister Seyran Ohanian left for Dushanbe on November 9 to take part
in the regular meeting of Council of CIS States’ Defence Ministers
to be held on November 10 in Dushanbe. NT was informed about it by
RA Defence Ministry Press Service.

Turkey Undertakes Reconstruction Of New Armenian Monastery

TURKEY UNDERTAKES RECONSTRUCTION OF NEW ARMENIAN MONASTERY

PanARMENIAN.Net
05.11.2009 18:10 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Turkey has started reconstruction of St. Kirakos
Armenian church of Diarbekir. Archbishop Aram Atesyan, Primate of AAC
Constantinople primate, has got familiarized with reconstruction work.

St. Kirakos will be the second church to be reconstructed after Holy
Cross of Akhtamar (Lake Van).

St. Kirakos and St. Sargis are the only well-preserved Armenian
monasteries in the south-east of Turkey. St. Kirakos dates from about
X-XI centuries, blagovest.info reports.

BAKU: Rasim Musabeyov: Preservation Of The Current Quo Status In The

RASIM MUSABEYOV: PRESERVATION OF THE CURRENT QUO STATUS IN THE KARABAKH CONFLICT IS BURDENSOME FOR RUSSIA

news.AZ
Nov 5 2009
Azerbaijan

Rasim Musabeyov Russia is seriously checking public reaction in
anticipation of the decisive stage in a four year negotiation round
of the Minsk Group, political scientist Rasim Musabeyov has said
commenting on prospects of the Karabakh conflict settlement by results
of the Moscow meeting of the representatives of the Azerbaijani and
Armenian public.

He said the meeting of Azerbaijani and Armenian parliamentarians
and then the mass media leaders and the meeting of public figures in
October in Moscow were significant events.

"I suppose this is not by accident. There is awareness that the
preservation of the current quo status in Karabakh is burdensome for
Russia, while Armenia is on the verge of financial bankruptcy and
can support military parity only under Russia’s direct assistance. It
is burdensome to do so also because military supplies to Armenia are
carried via Iran after the loss of communications via Georgia.

Moscow is aware that Baku will not close eyes on the further financing
of Armenia and its armament and that it will have the most negative
impact on the promising Azerbaijani-Russian projects. It means that
Russia’s expenses on Armenia should be added to the loss of the missed
profits in Azerbaijan.

It is difficult to maintain the current quo status. Georgia is lost
forever. Azerbaijan is strengthening and losing patience while Armenia
is stricken with economic crisis and is going through political
instability. We can expect that Russia will use its influence on
Armenians to end the deadlock in the Karabakh settlement. But Moscow
does not only intend to attain maximally possible concessions in
favor of its Armenian satellite but also deprive Azerbaijan of the
most important economic and military and political preferences. Thus,
there will be a fierce trading between the conflict parties and each of
them with Russia. But not all chances for Karabakh settlement are lost.

However, maximum 3-6 months are left to attain progress on the basis
of Madrid proposals, therefore, the mediators, including Russian ones,
should be in a hurry", noted he.